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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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saturn vs. ss

so here is my little question, my just bought an 01 saturn l300 to get back and forth to work with instead of shelling out money in gas for his truck, it has the dohc v6 in it. factory they put out 185 hp, (i looked it up) so me and my dad were talking about drag racing and so on, he said he liked how my car drove and that he thought it was quick for a 4 cylinder, now that coming from a guy who has has a 69 camaro that pulled the tires off the ground lol, and now a 57 belair with small block, so anyway he proceeds to tell me that he thinks this satrun could take my car and i laugh at him and said id love to line up next to him and race him, im just curious to know your guys opinions on what outcome could be?

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06 2.4 ss vs. 01 saturn l300 who would win
lets say stock for stock to make it easy.
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 05:36 AM
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auto or manual cobalt? what is the weight of the saturn?
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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manual balt and i dunno weight of saturn. just kinda going for a a guess on what could happen lol, just so i can joke around with my dad somemore
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Curb weight on the L300 with 3.0L V6 is in the 3025 range. So, Against any Cobalt with an automatic, it would be pretty darn even. However, if he would have purchased the 2.2L 5-speed L series, it would have a weight advantage over the 2.2L and 2.4L Cobalts. As the L series came with the F35 instead of the F23, gearing would then end up making the biggest difference.

Regardless, the Saturn 3.0L V6 is one of the worst GM engines used in recent years. It is notorious for having oil leaks at the oil cooler assembly, which is in a very stupid location.
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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i was thinking it would be even stock for stock, just because of horsepower and so on, just thought it would be fun to try and figure out before i actually go and take my dad to the track again so i can **** talk a little.
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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i have a question. how the heck did you get your car parked on a damn railroad track
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shabodah
Curb weight on the L300 with 3.0L V6 is in the 3025 range. So, Against any Cobalt with an automatic, it would be pretty darn even. However, if he would have purchased the 2.2L 5-speed L series, it would have a weight advantage over the 2.2L and 2.4L Cobalts. As the L series came with the F35 instead of the F23, gearing would then end up making the biggest difference.

Regardless, the Saturn 3.0L V6 is one of the worst GM engines used in recent years. It is notorious for having oil leaks at the oil cooler assembly, which is in a very stupid location.
It's not Saturn specific, it was also used in the Catera.


The L300s are not quick at all. You should be able to take it.
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 05redline
It's not Saturn specific, it was also used in the Catera.
This engine was used in the American versions of these models as well. The engine was reworked substantially between the 3.0 L L81 and 3.2 L LA3, but the bore centers and deck height were retained. In its 3.0 L form, this engine has a notable history for recalls of all units installed in U.S. Cadillac Cateras due to problems with timing belt tensioner bearing failures, which could cause catatrophic damage to the engine with its interference design.
There were a lot of issues with that family of V6's. Honestly, the High Feature V6 that is currently in production is the first v6 they've made in years that was well built and not pushrod based (not that I have any problem with pushrod v6's).

The old DOHC 3.4L was a nightmare, too. Not to mention how poor the Northstar v8 based v6's were and how poor the Northstar itself is. Disposible is the word, I do believe.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by compucarnut
i have a question. how the heck did you get your car parked on a damn railroad track
took some effort and very very carefull driving.

and i coming from my dad he thinks the car is actually quick for what it is, i have yet to ride in it or drive it, and my dad is not a four or six cylinder person by far. just thought id try to have a little fun with it in the mean while, i mean i wanted to know stock to stock but i mean im not stock but i dont have what i used to either. guess well find out sometime lol

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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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I strongly recommend you never do that again with your car on those tracks.

Trains can be very quiet and very quick and they can shake the ground alot, could be just enough to have your car go between the rails and there goes your car.

I work for the railroad, trust me, it happens daily, dont be one of them
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by _UnLiMiTeD_
I strongly recommend you never do that again with your car on those tracks.

Trains can be very quiet and very quick and they can shake the ground alot, could be just enough to have your car go between the rails and there goes your car.

I work for the railroad, trust me, it happens daily, dont be one of them
i was very cautious and knew my surroundings when i did this. i understand what your saying but the tracks i used are not used very much the main tracks are actually a few yards away from these. i lived in this area all my life and live very close to the tracks since i was born, so i do know about them and such. not trying to be know it all lol just know what i was doing and knew that tracks were safe, if i had any doubt i would have never taken the shots
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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saturn FTW!!! ahaahaha
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by shabodah
There were a lot of issues with that family of V6's. Honestly, the High Feature V6 that is currently in production is the first v6 they've made in years that was well built and not pushrod based (not that I have any problem with pushrod v6's).

The old DOHC 3.4L was a nightmare, too. Not to mention how poor the Northstar v8 based v6's were and how poor the Northstar itself is. Disposible is the word, I do believe.
So dispose one of those LC3 NorthStar's from a STS-V my way and I'll be happy to take it off your hands, supercharger included.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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So dispose one of those LC3 NorthStar's from a STS-V my way and I'll be happy to take it off your hands, supercharger included.
The supercharged northstar is INFERIOR in EVERY way to the supercharged LS1/LS2/LS3/LQ4/LQ9/LSA/LS8/LS9/LM4/LM7, ETC ETC.

Furthermore, you do NOT realize how much YOU DON'T want to work on one.
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