So i meet up with some across town Low Lives , and the one kid has a red EG hatch back. So i was going up there with a few friends of mine, SRT 4, Evo, S2000 and myself. Of course my friends bitch out and dont want to go race. **** them i went. So i we raced 3 times.
First time" 40 roll. Lost by 2 cars
Second race' 40 roll Lost by 1.5 cars.
Third race. Dead stop Lost by 1 car. ( He had launch control, i launced at 2 and spun half of first)
He told me hes pushing 4lbs of boost. Car should make 300hp to the wheels
Complete bull ****. so i get my stage 2 with a 2.9 on monday, i told him we have to race again on mon. he said he should be pushing 9lbs by then.

Who Will Win the next race??

 

he should've smoked you by ALOT more than that. you will most definitly get dusted even with stage 2 + 2.9. he was toying with you. a B20 turbo hatch is faster than my car.

 

you can't just assume that just because its a B20 and turbo that its fast...thats like a 140HP car stock. Thats like losing to a 2.2 turbo...

I have been doing alot of research on Honda-Tech (i'm wanting to build a turbo LS) and those motors are very similar to LS motors but with weaker sleeves...they can make 300whp on a stock bottom end but the tune has to be spot on.

I call a huge BS on 4psi and 300whp...next time find out what kinda turbo he is running.

 

ur not touching him..ur talking about a car that weighs less than u with way more hp...

 

T3/T4

 

I guarentee you its a godzilla motor. B20 (CRV) Bottom end, w/ B18C5 (type R) Head you can make close to 230whp with no mods at all. i dont see why 300 is unbelieveable with just a few pounds of boost.

 

if he did this swap and turbo'd it he more than likely did it the right way...which is to put a type R head on the b20 block and vtec it. the engine is more than capable of making crazy power

 

[QUOTE=chevysalesman614;1965777]I guarentee you its a godzilla motor. B20 (CRV) Bottom end, w/ B18C5 (type R) Head you can make close to 230whp with no mods at all. i dont see why 300 is unbelieveable with just a few pounIds of boost.[/QUOTE

Its not Vtec. He poped the hood. Not vtec head

 

if ur guessing off the valve cover if its vtec or not..thats not the most accurate way to do it lol

 

[QUOTE=Sta-meng;1965786]just cause the valve cover dosent say VTEC dosent mean it isnt. the honda guys are getting sneaky these days.. I've seen some really quick ones that are going for that stock/ sleeper look, right down to their stock catback.

 

I doubt that theres a vtec valve cover that dosent have vrec engraved in it somewhere. They look exactly like the LS integra motors. 1.8 non vtec

 

lol..mugen valve cover...my civic type R valve cover when i was in japan didnt have it...

 

Im pretty sure he can use the stock B20 valve cover and just bolt it down. to my knowledge theres no clearance issues. i think this dude is settin u up to lose money or look stupid. i'm just trying to answer your question. his car is faster then yours. his car will still be faster than yours when your stage2, w/2.9 goes in.

 

yeah the only way he is making those numbers is if he has a VTEC head on it...but the part I question is the 4psi, I still call BS on that.

if hes running the normal T3/T4 with .63 hotside he has to be running atleast 10psi to make 300whp and that motor has to be built from top to bottom.

to the OP, you said you're getting Stage 2 and 2.9 soon, does that mean you are stock right now? if so, a car much lighter than yours AND with 300whp takes you 2 cars tops? no way in hell...

 

I honesly Doubt im going to lose when the stage 2 is in. Becuase these motor heads RIG everything. Nothing is done correctly and a car is not going to run to its full potential if the turbo set up isn done right.

Im stock WIth a K&N and NGKS. I went with a buddy of mine and he said the same, i should of lost by alot more than that. Maybe the kid just cant drive?Hes was bitching about how his type R scynros are bad

 

Someone is in Denial. Everyone bashes Hondas, but as soon as they lose to one...

 

The B20 is similar in design to the B18B, and it has .2L more. Unlike the traditional VTEC bandwagon members, the LS-Turbo'ers have a nice benefactor called torque! Why do I know this you say, well it's because I have a 95 Integra LS with a stock B18B and a small 16G turbo that made 213whp and 208wtrq at 11psi on a Mustang dyno just using an SAFC to tune it! That torque was at 3500rpms too.

Now, take that bump up the displacement .2L and run a big turbo like the Honda guys usually go for (.57trims & GT30R's seem to be popular), shove it in a light ass hatch, and that's what you get. Remember it's not the PSI that counts, it's how many CFM's the turbo puts out. My gutted Integra weighs 2380lbs with 3/4 tank of gas in it. When I had the boost up to 15psi before my old freebee small 16G finally **** the bed, it was a freaking monster. It would surely roll my Cobalt with all my mods. I wish I had the videos off the camera back at home to show you, but let's just say more than a few highly noted boosted cars were unhappy with it. I can't wait to see what my new EVO III 16g, Megan Racing O2 housing, and Hondata S300 net me. 300+whp and 300+wtrq is what I'm going for.

 

yeah dude hes full of ****, you have what 210whp? and you lost to a 300whp car by 2 cars

i forsee you kicking his ass with a stage 2 and 2.9

 

if he really does have a built b20 pushing 9psi you will get beat by bus lengths...if he is lying...then you can win.

 

Im not denial. I would of said i beat him if i was bashing on hondas. i have owned 3 of them. There good cars but i just dont think imma lose to him

 

Ravens right, it's getting pretty popular to hide the "vtec" Scroll around on a couple forums. I've seen some guys grind down the "vtec" and get it all re-powdercoated to look like stock.

 

lol...didnt we talk about this 2 weeks ago frazier? lol...hey i was looking into a convertable del sol

 

friend of mine did a b20 turbo swap in an integra, it was dam fast. it wasnt a godzilla motor, the b18 non vtec was dead, so they swapped a b20 into it. they are supposed to have a pile of torque for a honda motor. on the small amount of boost he was running it was a monster.

 

i knows me hondas haha

 

a b20 in an eg hatch has about 200 hp because of the weight . that with a turbo at 9 figure about 10 hp for each psi hes around 300 with a tune hed smoke and SS/SC with a stage to i know bc my friend has a b20 turbo ek hatch and he smokes alot of ss/sc around me