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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sta-meng


I honesly Doubt im going to lose when the stage 2 is in. Becuase these motor heads RIG everything. Nothing is done correctly and a car is not going to run to its full potential if the turbo set up isn done right.



Im stock WIth a K&N and NGKS. I went with a buddy of mine and he said the same, i should of lost by alot more than that. Maybe the kid just cant drive?Hes was bitching about how his type R scynros are bad
dude, my cobalt had the same ****... and then alot more..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPgNes1lfjQ
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chillfactor
a b20 in an eg hatch has about 200 hp because of the weight . that with a turbo at 9 figure about 10 hp for each psi hes around 300 with a tune hed smoke and SS/SC with a stage to i know bc my friend has a b20 turbo ek hatch and he smokes alot of ss/sc around me
even tho ur agreeing with me...thats the dumbest thing i have heard...because its in a eg it has 200hp because of its weight? so if that same engine was in something bigger it wouldnt have as much hp?
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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you're just one of those dudes who thinks stage 2 (i didnt make the stage 2 mistake i got custom tuned) powns all, and there is no hope for you.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
yeah dude hes full of ****, you have what 210whp? and you lost to a 300whp car by 2 cars

i forsee you kicking his ass with a stage 2 and 2.9
u forgot one very important piece to the puzzle... he lost to a 300hp car that weighs half as much as he does by 2 cars....


anything is possible a friend of mine had a similar setup, however he rushed his build. i won by default, he sent a piston 20ft in the air.... if this guy know hows to build it then its a monster of a car....
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
you're just one of those dudes who thinks stage 2 (i didnt make the stage 2 mistake i got custom tuned) powns all, and there is no hope for you.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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you're just one of those dudes who thinks stage 2 (i didnt make the stage 2 mistake i got custom tuned) powns all, and there is no hope for you.
lol...theres only 1 car faster than a stg2 cobalt...a ls2 gto
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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lol...theres only 1 car faster than a stg2 cobalt...a ls2 gto
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sta-meng
Hes was bitching about how his type R scynros are bad
If he is using a Type-R tranny, that is killing his speed then. The gears are too short for that engine setup. A regular LS tranny would be far better suited for him.

Also, you would know if it had VTEC. That sound when it kicks in is unlike anything else I've heard and it will hardly be unoticeable too. It doesn't take a VTEC head to make power on the LS engines folks. However, a B20 bottom end with Golden Eagles LS/VTEC conversion kit and a Type-R head make s pretty damn stellar all motor engine.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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no way. the only thing faster than stage 2 is gm stage3 with NAWZ or the time attack cobalt. how dare you make such a blasphemous statement!
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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im agreeing with ubut im just saying what i know iv only messed with hondas before and that b20 motor in an eg is alot faster than when its in the crv because of power to weight ratio. and yes the b20 is out of a crv. and b20 motors are rated at almost 180 hp
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
If he is using a Type-R tranny, that is killing his speed then. The gears are too short for that engine setup. A regular LS tranny would be far better suited for him.

Also, you would know if it had VTEC. That sound when it kicks in is unlike anything else I've heard and it will hardly be unoticeable too. It doesn't take a VTEC head to make power on the LS engines folks. However, a B20 bottom end with Golden Eagles LS/VTEC conversion kit and a Type-R head make s pretty damn stellar all motor engine.
Then again, if the motor has cams, the vtec lobes could be the same as the rest of the intake cam. Vtec 24/7.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
no way. the only thing faster than stage 2 is gm stage3 with NAWZ or the time attack cobalt. how dare you make such a blasphemous statement!
haha shut up you drive a ford
hahaha :P
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chillfactor
im agreeing with ubut im just saying what i know iv only messed with hondas before and that b20 motor in an eg is alot faster than when its in the crv because of power to weight ratio. and yes the b20 is out of a crv. and b20 motors are rated at almost 180 hp
yea but what u said was because it was in a car that weights less..it has more hp..the engine puts out what it puts out...weather its in a crv or a eg3...now the power it puts out will be faster in a eg than crv yes because it weighs less..but its not gonna gain hp because of it
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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2k5ss/ssc? has a verry good point if he had the type r tranny hes goinh no were and u cant have a b20 with vtech unless u got that conversion or a b16 head on it same with an ls motor and a b20 with an ls trans make for a killer set up nice long gear for the turbo

yes raven ss i woreded my post wrong sorry long day at work

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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chillfactor
2k5ss/ssc? has a verry good point if he had the type r tranny hes goinh no were and u cant have a b20 with vtech unless u got that conversion or a b16 head on it same with an ls motor and a b20 with an ls trans make for a killer set up nice long gear for the turbo

yes raven ss i woreded my post wrong sorry long day at work
lol no worries..just dont want people thinking if they take there seats outta there car that they will gain hp
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Here's just an example to see what an thrown together kit on a B18B non vtec at 11psi will do fo you. This is my other toy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abf7z-eI4IY
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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yea they wont but they might think it did lol

wa kit is on that thing and its just a regual b18 right u thinking about doing the vtech conversion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DZjF...eature=related

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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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dont mess around with hondas,,,they are no joke
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Raven SS
lol no worries..just dont want people thinking if they take there seats outta there car that they will gain hp
dammit i was about to do that mod, thank god you saved me raven
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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dammit i was about to do that mod, thank god you saved me raven
lol
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
I guarentee you its a godzilla motor. B20 (CRV) Bottom end, w/ B18C5 (type R) Head you can make close to 230whp with no mods at all. i dont see why 300 is unbelieveable with just a few pounds of boost.
True that. My friend back in high school had a B20/B18 hybrid swap in his EG. Even with just an intake and a full exhaust on it, that thing was beast. I'm not a big fan of them, but I def respect the Hondas.

My co-worker has a built n/a H22 swap in his EK hatch, and w/ drag radials he's running 12's. I could only imagine what it'd run w/ boost.
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chillfactor
yea they wont but they might think it did lol

wa kit is on that thing and its just a regual b18 right u thinking about doing the vtech conversion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DZjF...eature=related
Well, it's a stock B18B with cheapy manifold that has a TD05 flange welded on it, used small 16G turbo that I got for free with the car, a stock SRT-4 intercooler, 560cc EVO injectors, used SAFC, and self fabbed charge pipes/full exhaust. At that point, I'd say that I had around a whopping $1500 bucks into the car to include the price of the car and four new tires!
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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like everyone else says....300 hp car vs your what 210 maybe stock he weights half of what you do ....or whatever i dont know anything bout hondas dont care either.....and he beat you by 2 cars .....with your stage 2 and 2.9 id put my money on you i dont care what any of you say ......when you do race him get it on video and post it back on here
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Maybe he doesn't know how to estimate car lengths??
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cooljake73
like everyone else says....300 hp car vs your what 210 maybe stock he weights half of what you do ....or whatever i dont know anything bout hondas dont care either.....and he beat you by 2 cars .....with your stage 2 and 2.9 id put my money on you i dont care what any of you say ......when you do race him get it on video and post it back on here
so your saying that a honda that weighs LESS than the cobalt and is going to have MORE hp than his cobalt is going to LOSE????

wtf are you smoking? can i have some??
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