Went to the track this weekend
Went to the track this weekend
I went to the track this weekend. My best run was a 15.4 at 91.54mph but that was with a lousy holeshot and missing third gear . On another note i wasn't even at the track for literally two minutes before every srt-4 owner had there heads buried in my engine saying lets catch a run. I want anybody from SO CAL to hit me up because it felt kinda akward being the only cobalt ss their. The srt-4 all ran better times but everyone was modified so if anyone hears any srt-4 owners claiming they whipped me please let em know my cars brand new and bone stock. By the way if anyone plans on going to the track make sure you buy drag radials or stay away from the water at the start. The pirelli's suck at the track.
You ran a 15.4 with the SS?? You must have been spinning for a good while
They usually spray the lanes at the track so you'd have better traction then on a road. But yeah, stay away from the burn out pit if you're not going to warm up your tires, they'll just be wet and bad for traction as you know.
They usually spray the lanes at the track so you'd have better traction then on a road. But yeah, stay away from the burn out pit if you're not going to warm up your tires, they'll just be wet and bad for traction as you know.
Los Angeles
Originally Posted by CobaltSS132
Where in socal do you live, i want to take my SS to the track as soon as i get it back tmaro
markuzeta@aol.com
the best thing to do, is drive around the water part, and do a quick spin burnout
just enough to get rocks and **** off the tires, its called 'scratching'
thats the best way to do it up, unless you get DR's
just enough to get rocks and **** off the tires, its called 'scratching'
thats the best way to do it up, unless you get DR's
Even with Drag Radials, stay out of the water. Anything with street tread will just pick up water and sling it all over the wheel well. Then when you stage all the water drips down on the track and you get crappy 60' times (not to mention tick off the "veteran" racers).
I got my best times on Drag Radials (BFG's) after a good dry scrub. It helps to drive them out to the track as well, which helps heat them up.
I now have DOT cheater slicks, which have minimal tread and don't pick up the water like the Drag Radials did. Those get a decent burnout in the waterbox
I got my best times on Drag Radials (BFG's) after a good dry scrub. It helps to drive them out to the track as well, which helps heat them up.
I now have DOT cheater slicks, which have minimal tread and don't pick up the water like the Drag Radials did. Those get a decent burnout in the waterbox
Also, no matter how much VHT they put down, it'll never have as much traction as the street. I don't know why people go to the drag strip thinking that traction is better there. It's not, it is usually much worse.
Case in point, I can launch pretty hard on the street and get minimal squalling from the tires in 1st and only a chirp WOT shifting into 2nd. If I try the exact same launch at the strip, it is spin city in 1st and about 1/2 way through second. Resulting in a 2.4ish 60's and 6.2 330's. On the street tires, I take it easier at the strip and usually end up with 2.0 or 2.1 60's followed by 5.7 or 5.8 330's. (Usually the way it works out is the 60' indicates how well the car hooks in 1st, while the 330' indicates how well it hooks in 2nd).
On the Drag Radials, on a WELL prepped track, I put down a 1.96 60' w/ a 5.6 330' and still had to baby it off the launch (2500rpm launch, rolling into the throttle, never got to WOT in 1st). With the DOT Cheaters, I set the MSD 2-Step at 4k and put my foot on the floor when both cars are staged. When the last yellow comes on I release the clutch quickly (not quite a "dump") and keep my foot on the floor until I hit the finish line (WOT shifting). With the DOT Cheaters, my best launch is a low 1.9 60' w/ a 5.5 330'.
Unfortunately the DOT cheaters grow at the top end of the track, rubbing on the strutts and slowing me down. My best with them is 13.3@100; I've run a 13.5@108 with the street tires. The slicks start rubbing at about the 1/8 mile mark. With street tires, I hit the 1/8 mile at 83mph, with the slicks I hit it at 82. With the street tires I gain 25mph on the top end; with the slicks I only gained 18. If I merge the two slips together I think it'd be a 12.9.
Case in point, I can launch pretty hard on the street and get minimal squalling from the tires in 1st and only a chirp WOT shifting into 2nd. If I try the exact same launch at the strip, it is spin city in 1st and about 1/2 way through second. Resulting in a 2.4ish 60's and 6.2 330's. On the street tires, I take it easier at the strip and usually end up with 2.0 or 2.1 60's followed by 5.7 or 5.8 330's. (Usually the way it works out is the 60' indicates how well the car hooks in 1st, while the 330' indicates how well it hooks in 2nd).
On the Drag Radials, on a WELL prepped track, I put down a 1.96 60' w/ a 5.6 330' and still had to baby it off the launch (2500rpm launch, rolling into the throttle, never got to WOT in 1st). With the DOT Cheaters, I set the MSD 2-Step at 4k and put my foot on the floor when both cars are staged. When the last yellow comes on I release the clutch quickly (not quite a "dump") and keep my foot on the floor until I hit the finish line (WOT shifting). With the DOT Cheaters, my best launch is a low 1.9 60' w/ a 5.5 330'.
Unfortunately the DOT cheaters grow at the top end of the track, rubbing on the strutts and slowing me down. My best with them is 13.3@100; I've run a 13.5@108 with the street tires. The slicks start rubbing at about the 1/8 mile mark. With street tires, I hit the 1/8 mile at 83mph, with the slicks I hit it at 82. With the street tires I gain 25mph on the top end; with the slicks I only gained 18. If I merge the two slips together I think it'd be a 12.9.
I ran my car twice so far.
Best time was 15.001 @ 98.97MPH.
Wheelspin is definitely a problem.
You can see that the speed is there for a low 14 but I can't get ahold of the wheelspin. I'll keep trying though. Yes the car is all stock, running on stock tires and air pressure.
Best time was 15.001 @ 98.97MPH.
Wheelspin is definitely a problem.
You can see that the speed is there for a low 14 but I can't get ahold of the wheelspin. I'll keep trying though. Yes the car is all stock, running on stock tires and air pressure.
Originally Posted by dj4all
For all of you complaining about wheel spin, do your cars have the LSD???
Originally Posted by MarcS
No, I don't, most people don't because it's hard to find an SS with LSD. It's on my list of things to do though! 

Originally Posted by dj4all
For all of you complaining about wheel spin, do your cars have the LSD???
G85 I don't believe would make much difference drag racing.
Road racing however is another story.
In THEORY in a straight line a LSD would make no difference. Reality is that it does, mainly because the parameters are not ideal as they are "in theory." A LSD can make up for having one front wheel with less weight on it, or for slicker conditions on one side of the track vs the other.
We don't live in an ideal world so a LSD will have at least a minimal role to play in straight line acceleration.
We don't live in an ideal world so a LSD will have at least a minimal role to play in straight line acceleration.
Originally Posted by mchat
In THEORY in a straight line a LSD would make no difference. Reality is that it does, mainly because the parameters are not ideal as they are "in theory." A LSD can make up for having one front wheel with less weight on it, or for slicker conditions on one side of the track vs the other.
We don't live in an ideal world so a LSD will have at least a minimal role to play in straight line acceleration.
We don't live in an ideal world so a LSD will have at least a minimal role to play in straight line acceleration.
Cobalts at the track
I see that some of you are going out to Fontana when possible....if you can, it might be fun for you guys to come out to Irindale some Thursday nite. We run the Phase5 Cobalt and we'd be happy to have you guys pit with us and join the ranks. Obviously we're the only Cobalt out there! Let me know if that's ever a possibility and we'll watch for you. We run just about every Thursday nite. (We will be at Fontana this Sunday for a Summit race). Al
Originally Posted by redrocket
In a striaght line, both wheels are locked and spin.
G85 I don't believe would make much difference drag racing.
Road racing however is another story.
G85 I don't believe would make much difference drag racing.
Road racing however is another story.
Originally Posted by 94S-10SupaSport
15's, thats all. Dang, my S-10 runs the same. Glad i got the four door.
You can see from the speed though that 14's are possible, problem is the launch.
Still trying to get the RPM and clutch worked out.
Every car or truck has good runs and bad runs yes even SRT-4's don't run 14's every time.
My LS1 will run anywhere from 14.30 to 12.90 and 60ft form 1.9 to 2.6 in the same night. Thats quite a difference but it happens. Besides the gravel road leading to my local track this is also why I haven't taken my SS/SC. I can't get good traction on the street so why look bad at the track?
I think I am going to buy some 17" SS wheels and mount up some decent Nitto or BFG DR first. I allready have some 15" LS Sport wheels that I was thinking about using but the SS wheels would look better.
My LS1 will run anywhere from 14.30 to 12.90 and 60ft form 1.9 to 2.6 in the same night. Thats quite a difference but it happens. Besides the gravel road leading to my local track this is also why I haven't taken my SS/SC. I can't get good traction on the street so why look bad at the track?
I think I am going to buy some 17" SS wheels and mount up some decent Nitto or BFG DR first. I allready have some 15" LS Sport wheels that I was thinking about using but the SS wheels would look better.


