I wouldn't be getting too excited about running SRT-4's just yet...

There already a couple here in SoCal that run low 12's, high 11's.

Phase 5 Cobalt of Erica's best is 11.88 and there daily driven SRT-4's that can do that.

You SS owners have a LONG way to go.

Get ta moddin....

Run the 15" wheels and 235/60-15 tires on your SS. You'll get more bite from the taller sidewall.

M/T and M&H both make a "cheater" slick in that size. MChat I believe runs the M&H on his SRT-4...

 

Yea, that's the size I generally run, but my best time on those is a 12.2@122ish with a 2.1 60' and a 5.5 330' (pedalling through 1st & 2nd). My 11.7 runs were on a set of borrowed M&H 26x8.5" slicks on Keizer wheels. That dropped the 60' down to 1.8's and the 330' down to 5.0's

I plan on making some rear suspension modifications (I have a couple of ideas) that will hopefully help keep the weight from transfering. Hopefully I'll be able to get into the 1.8 60' range with the DOT slicks then... after that I'll buy my own 26x8.5" slicks and shoot for low 11's on a cool day... not bad for 100% stock engine components

After my engine rebuild, I'll be turning up the boost and shooting for a 10.9 on just the turbo... and then I'll add a 100 shot Direct Port Nitrous kit and see how deep into the 10's it'll go.

 

mchat vs codyss

thats a mcthup I want to see... Drag strip , boxing ring, wherever just make it happen

 

Bump for Mark.


Fontana sucks complete DONKEY ASS. Especially in the middle of the summer. Back when I had intake exhaust and a boost controller I had a hard time breaking 100 mph in the heat there. Lightning's, EVO's, pre-03 Cobra's were trapping in the mid 90's on the same day.

 

You could say that about every track BUT Pomona.

LACR if its not hot, windy and dusty, then its cold, windy and dusty. Plus on Weds and Fridays they do MINIMAL track prep.

At Fontana I'm hearing they are getting help with track prep from the track crew at Las Vegas Motor Speedway since weather conditions are simular, so I guess the surface is getting better.

Presently Irwindale as the best traction available, but its only a 1/8th mile strip.

So as they say - YMMV

 

Went to the track tonight.. ran 6 times, stalled twice, missed gears 3 other times, and had 1 complete run HAHA

R/T 1.307
60' 2.443
1/4 15.267
mph 94

im happy, since its my first time ever racing.. i def need to work on my launch, its so tough to get a good one

 

yeah i just got back from the englishtown track my best time was 14.806 with a 2.2 60 ft I think theres a thread where you can post slips im ganna post them in there oh yeah the people who are running a 14.6 are they completly sock or do they have a filter?

 

I can testify that launching at the strip is much harder then the street. Darksun280 was playing with his launch all night and he finally got it down when he ran the 14.8. Darksun can correct me, but i believe he was running 20psi in the front tires for his 14.8. Your superchargers just spool up so fast its hard to hook in first it looked like.

I give all u cobalt owners props, on the street they move out. The cobalt running the 108 trap what are your mods?

My runs were two consistant 14.3's when the sun was out, dropping to a 14.5 when the sun went down.

 

I read throught the thread a few times to make sure but I think that is Mchat and he has an SRT.

A full weight SS would need 300 or so WHP to trap that high.

 

Not 300. SS/SC weighs about the same as the SRT-4. I was trapping 108 w/ 270whp (corrected) on a hot day (so probably closer to 255-260). I would expect an SS/SC to trap about the same with about the same hp (~260).

 

True for a SRT but not for a SS. The SRT make more torque than HP so usually a 270WHP 300WTQ SRT will go 108(mine does). Where as a SS will need close to 300WHP because it will not be making near 300lb-ft.

 

Torque is work being performed.

Horsepower is how fast that work is being performed.

Horsepower is what matters for acceleration. If it weren't all of those 10,000 rpm All Motor Sport Compacts would still be running 12's and 13's instead of 9's and 10's.

Additionally, the torque between the two cars isn't that far off. And we have yet to see what kind of torque a modified SS/SC will produce when they get up in the 300hp range.

 

I know exactly what torque is. What you're not understanding is that a 300 peak WHP SS is going to make 300WHP in a smaller range of the powerband than an SRT.

And yes the PEAK torque will be drastically different from a 270WHP SRT and a 270WHP S/C SS.


My SRT made 221WHP stock. I have seen SS's making 215-220 stock. So they should be trapping nearly the same as I did stock(99 mph), right? From what I have seen so far that IS NOT the case. On the same track I run at most Ion's & SS's are only trapping 92-93.

I think the highest stock Ss/Ion trap I have heard of is 97-98 where as the highest trap I have seen from a stock SRT is 103.

 

All these low times are case of shitty driving!! Stop dumping the clutch!!!!

 

Those 103 mph traps were done with cooler weather too. This is the SS/SC's first year out, as the cooler weather comes in, you'll start seeing faster traps and quicker ET's with the Cobalts.

Also the SRT's torque is tied to it's turbo, which will only spool up so quick. The SS/SC uses a super charger. To get more boost out of a supercharger you run a smaller pulley. You run a smaller pulley you increase the speed in which it "spools up" (for lack of a better term) so with a smaller pulley the SS/SC will make more torque at a lower RPM.

And who knows what kind of mods there'll be for the SS/SC, there's alot of things that could improve the low end torque. Until an SS/SC gets to the 270whp area we just won't know.

 

Actually a stock 04 SRT went 102.9 mph in 80 degree weather showing a density altitude of over 2500 ft. I made a video of it on streetfire search stock SRT @ Fontana.

I have typed out 3-4 sentences and have deleted them all. I can't seem to type anything not condescending towards you about the HP vs TQ comments. I will leave it at the Cobalt/Ion will NEVER make as much TQ as the SRT given the same HP. Nor will it ever have as much USEABLE power with a blower.