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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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1st and reverse problems or driver boo boo

just wondering if anybody has had problems with there manual getting there car into 1st and reverse. most of the time with i shift theres no prob, until i stop at a light-put it in to neutral and wait, green light comes and i feels like i am forcing it into 1st gear-same goes with reverce, but i figure i wasnt pushing the stick over enought. thats is the only prob comes once i stop. could it be she needs more time to be broken in still? rather stiff-got over 8000 miles. have an oil change appointment this friday-if there is a prob i can have them take a look at it then
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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yeah i got the same prob going into first.. no probs with reverse though. i was worried it had to do with my short throw but now i see its not lol..
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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yeah i got the same prob going into first.. no probs with reverse though. i was worried it had to do with my short throw but now i see its not lol..
lol was wondering if a short shifter would fix the problem. so there might be a problem after all
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 12:40 AM
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no issue here...with only 2K miles...so it's not break in.

? Does this occur only on a hill...or anytime you got to neutral at a light?
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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no issue here...with only 2K miles...so it's not break in.

? Does this occur only on a hill...or anytime you got to neutral at a light?
no hill problems, just when i stop and put it into neutral ~ 1st gears. of course if i take it to the dealership and tell them theres a problem. they take it for a spin and say they had no problems with it. and i must add it doesnt happen all of the time though. just enough to start noticing that there might be a problem
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Typical response..."we didn't notice anything"!

If I were you, I'd keep either a video camera...or a cell phone with vid capability with you so that when it shows itself you can record it and prove it. Hard to argue with evidence....but that's what it's come to anymore.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 01:18 AM
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...its a new car... 1st is really notchy, i had that prob when i first got it, and on a rare occation i still get it... Its be 1st has notches to prevent you from going into it unless ur going under 20MPH(i believe)... Once its broke in some itll go away, no issuese, and not driver boo boo either...
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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very rarely does it happen... probably hasn't happened in about 5 months. As the car gets older the gears seem to have gotten easier.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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I've notice the same thing but only when I am sitting at a light with my foot off the clutch. With the clutch in nothins spinning at any real speed. With it out the input shaft is spinning in the tranny so when you hit the clutch to shift the synchronizers are trying to equalize the difference ie hard to get in gear. Thats been my experiance, if I remember correctly though 1st and reverse are on the same fork? maybe. If your still having a problem then there might be something wrong with that shift fork or sycro/blocking ring.
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by montecarloman
I've notice the same thing but only when I am sitting at a light with my foot off the clutch. With the clutch in nothins spinning at any real speed. With it out the input shaft is spinning in the tranny so when you hit the clutch to shift the synchronizers are trying to equalize the difference ie hard to get in gear. Thats been my experiance, if I remember correctly though 1st and reverse are on the same fork? maybe. If your still having a problem then there might be something wrong with that shift fork or sycro/blocking ring.
mine wasn t typed as technical as yours was, but thats sounds about right.
with some of my past manuals( and i didnt know this at the time) i would ALWAYS just hold the clutch in when i was coming to a stop or stopped at a light- i ve corrected this habit as well as down shifting to slow down when needing to stop ( more wear and tear on the engine- brakes are cheaper to replace then an engine)but still i find my self having to down shift because if i dont, i just look stupid putt putting a long in the wrong gear while cars are are changing lanes to get way from me i have to figure out which gear to put it in to accerate( and look at my RPMS also)
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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but in the end, my car needs more break in time for the gears? heck i ve still have some of my buttons that are still stiff because i dont use them alot
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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once in a while when i have mine in neutral and put it in first it wont go at all. usually i throw it into reverse and then it goes in fine to first. i have no idea what it is.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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If this is at a stop and with the clutch in it is because the transmission has stopped rotating. Let out on the clutch with the car in neutral, then snick it into first. It should just slip right in then. Same with reverse. I have the reverse problem on my CRX and my T/A. From worn syncros, but that's a different reason. These cars are brand new so it can't be that unless you are abusing the tranny. Which I doubt any of you are.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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lol was wondering if a short shifter would fix the problem. so there might be a problem after all
Hey, it worked for me! I used to have that problem, but I got a B&M shifter and it hasn't happened since.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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I have no problem with first but i have the hardest time getting it in to reverse some times.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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I have the same problem with first and reverse, any idea what it is? could be a break in thing? i have just shy of 1700 miles
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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I have been having the exact same problems with mine! I went to put in my Hurst shifter last night, hoping that it would solve the problem and I found that a bushing was broken. I don't know if it is the culprit, but I need to get it replaced. Sometimes I have to push with all my might to get it in. I don't want to take it to the stealership because I know that they aren't going to want to do anything.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Mine does it in my driveway after it has sat all night. I just let out the clutch a bit and slip it in. I don't think it's a big deal.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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I have the same problem with 1st and reverse but its completely random and putting it into another gear (2nd 3rd 4th) fixes the problem and then it just slides right in. I don't try to force it at all. Maybe I have a cracked bushing too and it locks up because its catching...hmmm.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Reverse isn't syncronized, that's its problem. As for first, yes letting the clutch out and pushing it back in will usually work. Try putting it in second and then first, that always works on any manual transmission.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cawpin
Try putting it in second and then first, that always works on any manual transmission.
wow this thread has some months on it. i m still having a little problem with 1st. noT AS often though. Cawpin is right though. i will push the clutch in and if i have a prob with 1st- push the stick in 2nd and it s smooth sailing into 1st. but still kind of embarassing when the light turns green and you still sitting there because youe fight for 1st gear. wonder if the '07s are having this prob yet
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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Sounds about right, so nothing changed in the '07s.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by automobiliben
I have been having the exact same problems with mine! I went to put in my Hurst shifter last night, hoping that it would solve the problem and I found that a bushing was broken. I don't know if it is the culprit, but I need to get it replaced. Sometimes I have to push with all my might to get it in. I don't want to take it to the stealership because I know that they aren't going to want to do anything.
My buddy used to have this problem. When we took my buddy's shifter apart to install his B&M shifter his stuff looked just like yours and when we finally got it back together it fixed his 1st and reverse troubles.
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