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Old 05-11-2011, 11:25 PM
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Blew the tranny? no 2nd 4th reverse

I need ur guys help... lost all bottom gears(2nd 4th reverse)

I shifted to 2nd and it wouldn't go in. Same with 4th and reverse. I drove home with 1st 3rd and 5th. Ive read it might be a roll pin. I dont have a warrenty, but im preety good with working on cars and have the abilty to fix them. What u guys think happened?
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Does it have excessive play? If you can almost wiggle it in a circle, its the rollpin.
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^^^ x2, if the rollpin is not bad then a cable has stretched / broken / popped off its bracket.

If I was a betting man (wait, I am ) I would put money on the rollpin.....
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Yep. I'm thinking it popped off. Take out the cupholder & look at the cables & see if any of them have any 'play.'
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ROLL PIN!!! BLOWN TRANNY USUALLY WILL NOT LET YOU GET IT INTO ANY GEAR, UNLESS U BLEW THE GEAR, I HAVE BLOWN 6 TRANNYS AND 2 LSDS.. do not ask lol.. aND ALL MY TRANNYS I COULD GET INTO GEAR EXCEPT THE GEAR I BLEW.
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Originally Posted by JPizzle
Yep. I'm thinking it popped off. Take out the cupholder & look at the cables & see if any of them have any 'play.'
I second this
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
ROLL PIN!!! BLOWN TRANNY USUALLY WILL NOT LET YOU GET IT INTO ANY GEAR, UNLESS U BLEW THE GEAR, I HAVE BLOWN 6 TRANNYS AND 2 LSDS.. do not ask lol.. aND ALL MY TRANNYS I COULD GET INTO GEAR EXCEPT THE GEAR I BLEW.
ahhh stop yelling!! lol
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Yeha i didnt mean to.. lol after i see it im like wtf, who cares
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Everything was intact in the cupholder area. I can move the shifter almost in a circle. Just popped the driver's side wheel off now, and i see a spring loose coming out of the bracket on the the upper cable(forward and back movement cable, where as the lower cable is the side to side movement).

The upper cable moves freely when the shifter is moved straight up and gets stuck when the shifter is moved straight back.

Most likey this is the roll pin. Could you make a rollpin yourself out of steel or aluminum tubing instead of buying it. Or if not is it the same roll pin out of all manual cobalts? Seems like this is a problem on these cars.
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roll pin (tension pin ) is in the engine bay under the fuse box, search it!!! If you dont know!
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I say the cable broke, prolly looks something like this.

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OP stated he looked under the cup holder and all was well, but the outside linkage, def possible
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
OP stated he looked under the cup holder and all was well, but the outside linkage, def possible
Yep, or the roll pin like you have stated.
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
I say the cable broke, prolly looks something like this.

NO, do you see the spring in the cable... that spring is out and the cap that holds it in sheared off, but like you said the cable is broke (cap is on top side).
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ZZP sells new cables on their site. Or it will be warranty if you are not modded.
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they do? all I found were the brackets with no rubber bushings. Which would probably be worse because the rubber acts as a safety. The other thing I found was the TWM clamps for the end of the shifter cable.

I'm looking for an aftermarket cable that has something better than those plastic casings for the springs. Ill post the pics of what broke when i get the cable out.

GM told me 105 for the cables ( they come as a pair )
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Here they are.

Cobalt & Ion ---> ZZ Performance
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Are those just the GM ones? cause I got a similar price of 105 (I have a body shop so i get a diff price). Thanks for letting me know though
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have you had any problem with the cables breaking?
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i think your shift linkage may have popped off. i didnt read everyones post, but i saw alot of roll pin ****. when i lost my roll pin i had NO gears. i could do circles with the shifter. when i popped off my shift linkage i had no 2,4,r but was able to get to a parking lot in 1st and 3rd
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nah it broke back behind the brackets
Old 05-12-2011, 10:32 PM
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Yes I have broke my cable one time. Have not had a problem since tho. Yes the link to zzp is the gm cables so if you can get them for 105 and prolly dont have shipping thats the way to go obviously.
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