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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Brake's squeek

I've had my front Brembos and rear calipers powdercoated, and I've installed at the same time the R1 premium slotted/drilled with Hawk HP+ and ZZP brake lines, and right after that, my car always squeeks worse than a bus every single time I brake (my girlfriend can hear it loud from inside the house with the windows closed)! My mechanic couldn't figure out why, but I know that he probably didn't look well, maybe he just took off the pads to check them, but he didn't find out the reason. It may have something to do with the calipers powdercoated? What should I tell the mechanic to look for? Anyone had this problem?
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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bed in the HP+ properly?
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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What do you mean?
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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It says "Due to high friction levels this product may produce increased rotor wear and Brake noise when used for street driving". Damn, I didn't think of reading that. So I'm the only one in here with the HP+?
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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Can't help ya cause mine are all stock but damn to they ever squeal. Probably the only thing I really hate about the my lnf.
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Put the red disc quiet stuff on the back of the pads let it dry then some brake pad grease. Should help a bit.
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rivaladore
Put the red disc quiet stuff on the back of the pads let it dry then some brake pad grease. Should help a bit.
What's up dude? Ho wwas the weekend?
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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been runnin HP+ on my DD for a few years now.
just gotta deal with the noise.

I got **** from all my buddies(nsrt4 and tsi owners) until they rode in my car and I did light braking and it bout put them thru the windshield. They dont talk **** no more since they saw me brake at night

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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Verbatim
been runnin HP+ on my DD for a few years now.
just gotta deal with the noise.

I got **** from all my buddies(nsrt4 and tsi owners) until they rode in my car and I did light braking and it bout put them thru the windshield. They dont talk **** no more since they saw me brake at night

2.4L cobalt SS 5speed hawk HP+ - YouTube
Yes but mine squeek really loud and I can't take it anymore. I just wonder if a different type of pads will fix it or it may have something to do with the calipers
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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its the pads. there is a ton of metal in them...
try the hawk blue or black, its worse

Are you super easy when braking? The more you drive 'normal' they worse they are.

After a while you get the feel to minimize the noise but I dont really notice it anymore; my car squeaks, vibrates, backfires, shoots flames; just under normal driving. Gotta deal with losing some comfort when getting into performance ****. it sucks
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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its because you bought track pads. they need heat to work properly.
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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Actually the first 4 or 5 times that I brake they are fine, after they start squeek. Which pads would you guys recommend? Should I go back to the Ferodo or get something else?
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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Thats about exactly how long it takes for mine to squeak; nothing wrong.

Personally I always recommend the hp+. Have you done any driving where you need good brakes?

I backroad just about every weekend and I drive in the st. louis area, so I need good braking with all the shitty drivers. HP+ have saved my car from being hit(none my fault) 6 times in the last year.
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Old Nov 27, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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Actually I'm not racing the car yet, it has some problems and I want to take it to Autowerks. How would it be ceramic or semimetallic pads?
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AyrtonSenna
What's up dude? Ho wwas the weekend?
It was good. All moved in and this week at my new job has been good so far. I'll let you the next time I'm in the area and we'll install those hids and guages
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rivaladore
It was good. All moved in and this week at my new job has been good so far. I'll let you the next time I'm in the area and we'll install those hids and guages
Sounds great, let me know. I hope it won't get too cold when we do it.
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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i have the same issue all i can tell you if u grease the back of the pads and used the metal plate that the factory pads come with and grease that too it helps reduce the noise some days it does it others it don't . great pads tho just wish they didn't sound like a dieing pig when i come to a slow stop
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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i run stockers still... they squeeked for the first 6 months .. haven't heard them squeek since.
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Like others have said the noise is from the pads. If you don't get them really hot (race temp) then HP+'s are loud. With Brembo's its been proven that stock pads are just fine for tracking and if you want pads for just tracking then you will need some Carbotech XR1's. Also if you are going to track your car with those drilled rotors have fun connecting the dots. When you get those rotors hot they will start to crack between holes.
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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Like others have said the noise is from the pads. If you don't get them really hot (race temp) then HP+'s are loud. With Brembo's its been proven that stock pads are just fine for tracking and if you want pads for just tracking then you will need some Carbotech XR1's. Also if you are going to track your car with those drilled rotors have fun connecting the dots. When you get those rotors hot they will start to crack between holes.
I remember someone mentioning those carbotech, but I couldn't find them. If they don't have the squeaking issue, I'll consider them
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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I remember someone mentioning those carbotech, but I couldn't find them. If they don't have the squeaking issue, I'll consider them
Here is the problem. Your not going to find a track pad thats going to be quiet and its not a good idea to drive around on the street with track pads. HP+ is as far as one should go with aggressive pads on the street. I am telling you get the stock pads for your brembo's and you will have your quiet brakes and stopping power needed to for the track. The stock pads are made by Ferodo.
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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I was thinking the same. Just feel bad to buy the same pads again, I don't even know where my stock ones are, but anyway they had 25k miles on and they were installed with the stock rotors, I wasn't going to put them back.
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Old Nov 28, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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I was thinking the same. Just feel bad to buy the same pads again, I don't even know where my stock ones are, but anyway they had 25k miles on and they were installed with the stock rotors, I wasn't going to put them back.
Just get some new ones from Tom. Stock pads are going to be your best option.
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Wondering if swapping to HPS will do it. I have a friend with the sedan that has my same rotors with the HPS, his brakes don't make noise at all.
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