Can a 2.2 automatic bolt up to a 2.0 engine? Can anyone give me a link to specs of engine and trans maybe soem good detailed pics?

 

it should.. engine blocks are almost identical in bolt patterns and external appearence

 

ok so sparks my next question? will the trans hold the 2.0s power?

 

Yes, but the real question is, how long will it hold it for? and how much abuse can it take? I do not have an answer to that question though sorry

 

Honestly I don't think your biggest headache will be whether or not the tranny can take the abuse. The 4T45E tranny is electronically controlled by the ECM/TCM so unless you or someone you know is a computer wizard, or can make this tranny shift mechanically, I think that will be your biggest headache. If it's what you want to try we'll be watching for your posts -- and waiting to see the finished product.

 

it'd be less of a headache to just learn to drive stick

 

i kno how to drive stick but mom needs to take my car every once in awhile shes lefty she cant do it shes tryed, i wish i could do the swap and try it see what happens but i cant just throwing an idea out to see what you guys think

 

Sorry but doesn't seem like a realistic swap, especially for the fact that you don't have a PCM to control the shift points of your automatic transmission. Spending money on a transmission, labor, getting a standalone unit, paying someone to install it just so your mom can drive your car...with the amount of money you're looking to invest, should could buy a beater Cavalier with some change to buy a nice pair of shoes.

 

ok here's the deal.. the 2.0 PCM does have the support for an auto tranny, even can control it with hp tuners.. unfortunatly thats gonna be the only way we (ss/sc) can make good power, or pay 13,000 to get a stick race tranny ,, I'll be pickin up one soon and having it built up to withstand the power I"ll be making

 

so what your sayin is.. if we want to go fast.. we need to do a auto tranny swap? is that worth the money to do? is the ecotec cavy tranny the same as the cobalt 2.2?

 

well if you want reliable drivetrain components... basically the auto build is the only way to go.. thats even what gm did, and whitfield's cobalt... the stock tranny,,, is just good enough for stock, but barely...

and I think the old cavy trannies can bolt up, but mounts are probably different

 

hmm intresting.. so.. all the ss/sc cobalts would benefit more from an auto tranny, then the stock 5 spd? i suppose tuning it would be a pain though..

 

Well there is perhaps one other way to go, we'll find out soon enough

 

LOL...wow, not to be mean but that's a really bad reason for not being able to drive a manual. I'm lefty as well and had no problems what so ever with learning now to drive one. Besides - what about Europe...do rightys only drive automatics???

I'd say if it's the car you really really want, then get the 2.0. I'm assuming you're paying for it yourself, if so then there should be no question that you get what you want. If mom and/or dad are coughing up the dough, then it's technically their car so you take what they buy you.

Also, what about the 2.4 SS as a compromise? Sure, it doesn't have the power of the 2.0 but it's still faster than the 2.2.

 

haha victory... you gotta keep me posted on the progress....

 

I will. The next 2-3 weeks are going to be really interesting.

 

I can't wait to see that thing in action,,,

 

Stock trannies can hold up to around 350HP, otherwise you'll about boil your tranny fluid and what not. Upgrade your Torque converter a bit and you can squeeze a little bit more power out of it.

350 hp will be plenty to the wheels to go fast.

And 350 hp is definetly a little more than stock.

 

My moms going on 50, parents payed for half the car so...... and she drove a 68 firebird that was a 4 speed slap shifter back in the day, i would be very interested in the post, in the weeks to come

 

i thought the automatic in these cars was only good for 250 wtq in stock form...

 

I'm pretty sure its 350.

Even if it is 250 wtq. thats quite a good bit over 120-130 that they produce to the wheels now.

You'll be fine to run the auto tranny for quite some time

 

theyre rated at like 220tq but theyre fine to go to 250tq (id buy a tranny cooler)

 

do we or do we not already have a stock tranny cooler on the 2.4?

 

I believe you do

 

The j-body cars used 4t40's. The deltas use 4t45e's. The whitfield car uses a 4t60. The bellhousings on the LSJ and L61 are indentical. The trans would bolt up just fine. You would not be able to use it however. The 4t45e is an electronically controlled trans. The PCM in the CobaltSS is able to control a trans, but isn't programmed to do so. The trans equipped cobalts use separate engine controls and trans controls.