I drive a lot at highway speed, and keeping it in 5th until high idle, 1250 seems to be a good area to push the clutch in, and then into 2nd until I finally stop seems healthy enough. It's not like you have to row the gears to come to a stop, and rev-matching (F&F turned me off to the term double-clutching) will save your snycros if you have the space in front of you to do it. Not seeing a problem with engine braking here.

I vote downshift.

 

I interpret him to be saying that he leaves it in gear until slowed down to 1300 rpm (rolling idle rpm) then puts it in neutral. Exactly as seems to be the generally accepted correct method. The only difference is he slips it out of gear once the transmission is unloaded without depressing the clutch.

Not sure how thats neutral coasting

My point would be that clutches are cheaper than transmissions. Use the clutch.
Though that argument could also be used for brakes vs clutch. Which seems to yield a marginally incorrect answer.

Yes I'm a newb. I always thought it would be useless to have it in the higher gears under about 1.7krpm since you don't fair much better than coasting when you need gas it. After learning all this I will make an effort to leave mine in gear for longer.

 

its possible he was talking about putting it in neutral at an idle, which is no big deal.



Downshifting is not about leaving it in higher gears at low RPMS like that.

downshifting is when your at highway speeds in 5th gear, and your coming up to a stopsign.
you downshift to fourth, revmatch, then release the clutch.
allowing the higher rpm compression of the motor so slow you down.
then downshift to 3rd
etc etc etc. until you are coming in in 2nd at a nice reduced speed, at which point you begin breaking, and shift to first once you reach a stop.

This is the correct way to slow a vehicle using engine braking and standard braking.

the WRONG way....is to put the car in neutral at any point in the slowing down process other than just before stopping.

Thats what i was calling "neutral coasting"

 

would u rather pay for a clutch or brakes? simple choice

 

...oh god

Thank you for bringing back a nightmare, did you read the last 270 posts before you posted?

 

This is how I downshift/decelerate my vehicles and it's the proper way to do so safely.. the only difference I don't do is to downshift to 1st gear since it's so low anyways. Matching your revs is good for your clutch and your engine when you use the compression of the engine to slow you and it's the proper way to be ready for any possible emergency situation or under adverse conditions, etc. ask any professional driver.

I drive truck for a living and if you're in neutral coasting to a stop and it's slippery out.. you're putting ppl's lives at risk
/end rant

 

no i did not. i submitted my choice on the poll and left my comment.

 

You'd have to be hauling ass in 5th for 4th to be worthwhile for braking. From any speed in 5th I'll go to 3rd if I have a ways to go before stopping, if not right to 2nd. Sometimes you'll **** off the slushies behind you cause you'll start slowing and they won't see brakelights. Alot of the time as you're coming to the light while 2nd is slowing you, brakes won't even be necessary at all.

I knew the procedure for rev-match downshifting before I even got a car with stick, but I was still surprised at the "blip" it takes to go 5-2 if you're doing like 45-50. You've really gotta get the revs up there. Nice braking though.

 

I usually downshift if there is space to do so, but if not then neutral it goes. Also depends on how lazy I'm feeling that day or if I want to hear the exhaust.

 

i made this awesome thread reign!!! lol

 

spoken like someone who doesn't know how to drive a manual car, but thinks they can. I bet I replace my brakes less than you, and still have the stock clutch which grips just as strong as the day I got it. so i'd rather pay for neither, for a very long time.

 

Holy dead thread revival man!!!!!

DOWNSHIFT GOD DAMN IT OR BUY AN AUTO!!!!!!

 

I'll vote downshift but it entirely depends on the situation I'm in.

 

i downshift all the time, even do some heel toe action

 

Downshift. Gliding in neutral is asking for it if you need to jump on it.

 

listen to this guy lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPj9X...eature=related

i thought i would bring this back lol

 

"dont downshift and let the car slow you down"
and then spend 10 minutes showing you how to downshift while hes slowing down

strange.

 

Agree with video...that's how I drive every day

 

Neutral, brakes are cheaper and less headache, that's for sure.

 

Rev matched downshifts DO NOT WEAR OUT YOUR CLUTCH!

Get it right and you don't need your clutch at all - although I suggest you learn with the clutch.

If you need to brake while downshifting, REV MATCHED HEEL AND TOE!

Want to save wear on your synchros as well? REV MATCHED DOUBLE CLUTCH DOWNSHIFTS. Only way you CAN downshift an older non synchro tranny.

 

I am not even going to argue this because the morons who THINK they can drive stick but really can't... oops i've said too much.

 

lolz, I couldn't bite my tongue anymore.....

 

Word. My 240 was a stick with a 6 puck clutch. If you didn't revmatch your downshifts, you'd be sideways in the road.

Heel toe FTW.

 

I've been rev match downshifting my car now for almost 10000 miles and my clutch is just fine

 

I'm a firm believer in rev match and down shift, alot of corners I brake very little or not at all. Match the engine to the gear box speed and it doesn't hurt the clutch.