Drivetrain Transmission, LSD, Clutch, Driveline, Axles...

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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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While your driving yes, but not at idle.
Sorry to semi-hijack the thread. I'm not terribly familiar to transmissions, but does the synchro have directionality? If the output shaft is free to spin (due to broken axle), why would the synchro care whether or not the car is at idle? The synchro would just spin the output to match the input rather than the normal of vise-versa...
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 04:17 PM
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I guess that would also be where Rice's LSD question comes in...
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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The output shaft wouldnt be free to spin. The axle joint snapping outside of the transmission would have nothing to do with how the trans functions. The axle would spin just like normal. It would just not be connected to the wheel and there would be alot of grinding while trying to take off.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by double clutch
The output shaft wouldnt be free to spin. The axle joint snapping outside of the transmission would have nothing to do with how the trans functions. The axle would spin just like normal. It would just not be connected to the wheel and there would be alot of grinding while trying to take off.
Wouldn't that all depend on how it snapped? If it snapped clean, then what is there to grind? Apparently something is grinding, but if there's not much resistance, then it should spin pretty freely. And when I say that the output shaft is "free to spin" I mean resistance. Obviously it's still connected to the diff. But if it's not connected to the wheel due to breakage then there's no resistance for the synchro to spin it. I'm not sure how else you'd get the vss to register without any wheel motion. I also don't know where the vss is actually connected. I assume it's on the trans output before diff? If that's true, the decoupling must be occurring between the trans output and wheels.

Again, the LSD throws a wrench into this. Unless it's the LSD that snapped.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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Ya gotta remember the boot. The axle boot will wind up and not allow the axle to spin. Same thing happened to mine. I also have lsd. I thought it was a trans issue but i jacked it up and spin my drivers side wheel and saw that my passenger side didnt move. Everything acted just as normal except the car wouldnt move and the was a grinding noise when i tried to take off. I could not put the car into gear without the clutch while i was idling
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by double clutch
Ya gotta remember the boot. The axle boot will wind up and not allow the axle to spin. Same thing happened to mine. I also have lsd. I thought it was a trans issue but i jacked it up and spin my drivers side wheel and saw that my passenger side didnt move. Everything acted just as normal except the car wouldnt move and the was a grinding noise when i tried to take off. I could not put the car into gear without the clutch while i was idling
Does that mean your LSD broke? Did your speedo move as well? For me that's the weird part. If the clutch is bad, but everything between the input shaft and wheels is intact, then why would the speedo move without the wheels moving, unless it's the diff?

I hope I don't sound antagonistic, just trying to understand. I'd like to figure out transmissions better.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 06:05 PM
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Does that mean your LSD broke? Did your speedo move as well? For me that's the weird part. If the clutch is bad, but everything between the input shaft and wheels is intact, then why would the speedo move without the wheels moving, unless it's the diff? I hope I don't sound antagonistic, just trying to understand. I'd like to figure out transmissions better.
The only thing that broke was my drivers side axle. Everything else was fine. I didnt really pay attention to my speedo. As soon as i hit the gas and heard grinding i stopped to reduce further damage
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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OK Rice it's past 5. We're curious. Get the car up.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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Well there is fresh white grease evident all over my driver side axle and the surrounding area. Axle feels solid but i guess im gonna take it out to look at it more closely.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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Just put the front wheels on jack stands and spin them.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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Well i ripped out the axle and holding it in the middle, i cant get either end to spin without it. soo
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 10:31 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 11:19 PM
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Grease on the boot but axle seems okay.,
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:12 AM
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Gotta be clutch i guess
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:27 AM
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Call up KY Clutch.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:30 AM
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You sure that axle is ok?

Does the output shaft spin with the axle removed?

Put it in 1st then press the clutch and see if the speedo stops. I don't think the clutch is the issue...
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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hmm good idea man i'll have to check! thanks for all the advice, as always guys haha
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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Im not sure where that white grease would be coming from. Axles are filled with black grease
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 04:23 PM
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Okay started the car in the air and peeped into the tob with the car coasting in gear.

Few things i noticed:

Pass wheel was not spinning
Tob was spinning
When the clutch was pressed in, the mph was 0, when i let off the clutch, whether or not i was in gear the speed would go up a bit and my warnig lights (door ajar, ebrake) would flash.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 04:52 PM
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I'm now a spectator. You could say I always was, but i'm officially out of ideas.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by riceburner
Okay started the car in the air and peeped into the tob with the car coasting in gear.

Few things i noticed:

Pass wheel was not spinning
Tob was spinning
When the clutch was pressed in, the mph was 0, when i let off the clutch, whether or not i was in gear the speed would go up a bit and my warnig lights (door ajar, ebrake) would flash.
I still think TOB or clutch or both due to one failing and causing the other to fail.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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Just wierd if its the clutch, i havent smelt anything as of when it went. And the tob appears to be all there
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by riceburner
Okay started the car in the air and peeped into the tob with the car coasting in gear. Few things i noticed: Pass wheel was not spinning Tob was spinning When the clutch was pressed in, the mph was 0, when i let off the clutch, whether or not i was in gear the speed would go up a bit and my warnig lights (door ajar, ebrake) would flash.
Broken trans.
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 07:33 PM
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Really? wouldnt i have heard all sorts of crashing noises from it?
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 07:46 PM
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Broken trans.
That is possible but you would think lots of clattering and strange noises from it.
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