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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:11 AM
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please help, no gears!

Pulling out of my driveway yesterday i was in 1st gear when all of a sudden the car popped out of gear. Thinking maybe i wasnt fully in gear i stopped and put it back into gear. Let off the clutch and i dont move an inch.

The shifter goes into all of the gates all the way but no gear works at all. Ruh roh? Im not sure if this is a roll pin issue. Upon a quick lift of the boot cover it seems like my cable clamps are attached.

I HAVE smelt my clutch a few times lately... but besides a 2nd gear burnout where the clutch decided to slip instead of spinning the tires it hasn't shown any signs of slipping yet. new gmpp clutch as of april. car puts down 300whp.

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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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A couple of easy ones...
Can you put it in gear with "clutch out" and no grind?
Are the shifter cables attached to the transmission? Do they move the arms on the tranny properly when you move the shifter?
Have you replaced the clutch? What are the other circumstances when you smelt it-were you slipping, etc?
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 12:11 PM
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Clutch is gone
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 12:12 PM
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I'd guess your cables popped off.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by emecham
A couple of easy ones...
Can you put it in gear with "clutch out" and no grind?
Are the shifter cables attached to the transmission? Do they move the arms on the tranny properly when you move the shifter?
Have you replaced the clutch? What are the other circumstances when you smelt it-were you slipping, etc?
i put it in gear and when i let off the clutch, i do hear grinding, any gear.

i need to check if the arms move. the clutch was replaced with my trans this last season with a gmpp and hadn't ever slipped before this, besides one failed 2nd gear burnout where it slipped like crazy a few weeks ago.

here and there after a pull i smell the clutch.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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not roll pin.
roll pin means floppy shifter
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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Id say clutch or cables.

Smelly clutch es no bueno
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 12:45 PM
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faaaack i just find the clutch being hard to believe since it literally popped. usually i think there would be some serious slipping issues first.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 12:49 PM
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The clutch in one of my friends trucks just blew out instantaneously. no signs of slippage at all. Sorry dude
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 01:15 PM
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He could have exploded the TOB.
I did it in my LSJ.


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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSSstg2
He could have exploded the TOB.
I did it in my LSJ.


That will do it. Rice this is most likely your issue.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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Since it blew apart like that, no fluid ever left. Clutch pedal was still active, but nothing happened. Haha. That was a fun drive home from Cleveand to Palm Coast.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
Smelly clutch es no bueno
ditto

Originally Posted by riceburner
i put it in gear and when i let off the clutch, i do hear grinding, any gear.

i need to check if the arms move. the clutch was replaced with my trans this last season with a gmpp and hadn't ever slipped before this, besides one failed 2nd gear burnout where it slipped like crazy a few weeks ago.

here and there after a pull i smell the clutch.
So you start, shift to first with clutch pedal down, let out clutch, and no movement but grinding gears? Did you try to shift without pushing in the clutch pedal?

It sounds like either the clutch is not engaging (clutch/TOB bad), or the transmission is not moving the gears into position properly (likely cables). Rule out the cables first cuz it's easier than pulling apart the trans.

Originally Posted by BlackSSstg2
He could have exploded the TOB.
I did it in my LSJ.
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That sucks right there. I'd think an esploded TOB would mean it would be difficult to disengage the clutch, and therefore grind trying to put it into gear with clutch pedal depressed, correct?
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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Does this mean you will be selling off more parts out of your car.....? lol

Sorry, had to do it.

I hope everything works out, and that its just an easy cable adjustment.

Im thinking if the cable disconnected from the tranny end, you will still feel pressure putting it into gears as the cable slides through the line.

It might feel normal, but be disconnected and not doing anything.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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Explain this 2nd gear burnout you did, and why????
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSSstg2
He could have exploded the TOB.
I did it in my LSJ.
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Oh boy. and yeah iirc from installing that is only accessible inside the trans?

Originally Posted by emecham
ditto

So you start, shift to first with clutch pedal down, let out clutch, and no movement but grinding gears? Did you try to shift without pushing in the clutch pedal?

It sounds like either the clutch is not engaging (clutch/TOB bad), or the transmission is not moving the gears into position properly (likely cables). Rule out the cables first cuz it's easier than pulling apart the trans.

That sucks right there. I'd think an esploded TOB would mean it would be difficult to disengage the clutch, and therefore grind trying to put it into gear with clutch pedal depressed, correct?
not sure dude. clutch pedal felt the same

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Explain this 2nd gear burnout you did, and why????
we were trying to prep a road

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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Either TOB or the clutch disintegrated.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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I'm going to bet tob.... rice isnt making the power to eat a gmpp clutch unless he beats on it day in and day out.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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which i do but i am good on her. don't slip the clutch much, don't ride on it while driving, etc.

yeah i'm trying to bet it's not the pin or anything since i can feel the trans shift into all gears; the shifter ahs all the feel and i still have clutch pressure.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by riceburner
which i do but i am good on her. don't slip the clutch much, don't ride on it while driving, etc.

yeah i'm trying to bet it's not the pin or anything since i can feel the trans shift into all gears; the shifter ahs all the feel and i still have clutch pressure.
Sounds like you did what I did.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Put it in 1st and reverse and then try to start the car. Does it try to move?

If it does your TOB blew up.

Now pop the shift linkages off and put the car into gear by HAND. Then start the car. Does the clutch work?

If not, clutch. Or trans...
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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I'm going to bet tob.... rice isnt making the power to eat a gmpp clutch unless he beats on it day in and day out.
I would agree, but I have seen where a TOB was going bad and it caused the clutch to burn up bacause it would not engage all the way, and he did mention he has been smelling clutch lately, and the failed 2nd gear burnout also throws a red flag for me.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 03:44 PM
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Sorry for your loss
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 07:12 PM
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Okay


Car is OFF

It moves when shifted into gear from the inside

I found one arm and pushed it till it clicked once or twice, car still moves.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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When car is on i can push it into gear without the clutch, the rpms surge and the ebrake warning comes on. (Ebrake is on) car does not move...

I can feel pressure in the clutch and all gears in the shifter.
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