So last night i was on my way home when im comming up to a stop sign i just pull my car out of 3rd gear with out the clutch (wich i know is ok), but when i pulled it down it when straight down into 4th with no problem. Im like what the hell. So i take off from the stop and try shifting without the clutch and it works. All i do is just let go of the gas and shift, it goes into every gear like this, pretty smooth too. So my question is has any body experienced this aswell and is it bad for the trany? Thanks

 

have fun while it lasts

 

Your good as long as it goes in with no force at all. Truck drivers do this every day. A friend of mine used to drive a truck, and has always owned manual cars. He only uses teh clutch when taking off and goin into reverse. Like I said, as long as there is NO grinding or force needed to get it in gear your fine.

 

Pro race car drivers do clutchless up shifting all the time. Just be real careful though. Its awesome looking when done though.

 

Totally agree,I drive truck and you tend to do this when the rpms are just right,you dont try this taking off or at high revs

 

Glad you asked this because I have been having this happen too for a long while now but have not had time to post about it. Mine does it quit often tho.

 

Truck drivers and race car drivers may do it all the time, but their clutches would be designed to do it... in a regular econo box car your probably just shortening the life of your clutch significantly.

 

yo can do tis but it is not recommended. our trans has syncronizers (spelling?) on the gears and they are made from a light metal. when ou pull it into gear without hitting the clutch, the sync will have to do much more work and will wear out much faster than it should. trucks do not have syncs like ours...thats why they can do it

 

I've been doing it with my t-56 for nearly 70K miles now and no grinding or relucancy to shift yet. *Shrugs* But then agin its' much heavier than a Cobalt's tranny. Yes yo can do it, shoudl you? Honestly I'd say it's ok if you dont' force it, cause at that moment the gears adn engine speed are within 10 RPM of eachother, honestly that's not gonna wear on either part much if at all.

 

I drive a truck and the gears in the trans of a truck are made to be able to do that. The gears in the stock trans of a cobalt are not!
Its your car but I never do this in my car do to the fact that I dont want to pay for a trany any time soon.

Go and find out what haveing your trans replaced costs and then tell me if you are wiling to risk it. If you are then you have more money then I do. Or less brains. But its on e or the other for sure.

Later.

 

this could be the dumbest question but how can you tell if they are with 10rpms of each other

 

You gotit - that's exactly what will happen - nothing to do with clutch wear etc.

Good technique for smooth driving tho'.........

 

It happens around 2.5k rpm for me, but it's too wierd to drive a manual without the clutch, plus im worried about the gears. Not recommended but it is smooth

 

Becasue it just falls into place like its' sliding on silk. There's no clunk, no grinding, it just slips in.

 

Yah my budy did it in his z28. Its funny so did my gramps in his 40 ford (talk about weak tranny)but no big deal if you do it right. AND you should only do it when you are crusing.

 

what about sliding it out of gear into neutral without the clutch? is that bad? I do it all the time when i am coming up to a light.

 

You can do it on big rigs and pure race cars. They are made to speed shift. Your dealing with a stock tranny and clutch. If you want to speed shift it enjoy it while you can it won't last long. The clutch was put there for a purpose.

 

The clutch remains engaged, so you are not wearing it by doing this. Your clutch should last longer, because you are only using it for launghing. The transmission is the only real thing that can be damaged here. If you are grinding gears, you will be purchasing a new tranny in the future.

 

I learned this trick a long time ago when my buddies 64' ford falcon sprint (289 V8) lost clutch linkage.... we drove all the way home w/ no clutch.

As Mi6 said this does don't wear your clutch any more than normal. The key is timing the shifts so that as you upshift and your rpm's drop and you are in the correct rpm range in the next higher gear. I would only do this out this out of necessity, and only for upshifts.... timing the downshift requires accurate throttle blipping. it's good to know how to do in case your clutch linkage goes out!

I was forced to drive my 70' charger 500 (383 V8) home from downtown NYC to Jersey (about 25 miles). Clutch linkage went out and pedal stayed on the floor. I had to shut the car down at each stoplight and start the car from each light in first gear. As I approached the stop light I could pop in neutral..... but, how was I to get into 1st. Thank god it was like 2am and traffic was minimal!