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SS/SC won't go into 2nd @ WOT

Old Aug 25, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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SS/SC won't go into 2nd @ WOT

title pretty much states my issue. when i get on it and shift at or near redline, it does NOT go into 2nd or i use so much force to get it in that i fear breaking something in the linkage. no other gear does that, and when driving normally its not too horrible going into 2nd but not as easy as i think it should.

have i fucked up something? opinions please.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Sounds like a bad synchro, unless you grind the hell out of 2nd all the time I dont' think it's your fault.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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well, i have never experienced a grind when doing this. so i doubt that the synchros are shot. i am stock, with 7800 miles on the clock. its really pissing me off. i dont know whether to try going back to the dealership and seeing if they will do anything, or if they wont do anything?

i read the posts about the clutches not properly engaging, shifter being difficult to move, and the fact that theres no technical service bulletin released yet, so im in sort of a dilema.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bika
title pretty much states my issue. when i get on it and shift at or near redline, it does NOT go into 2nd or i use so much force to get it in that i fear breaking something in the linkage. no other gear does that, and when driving normally its not too horrible going into 2nd but not as easy as i think it should.

have i fucked up something? opinions please.
My car does this also. Its annoying... Its definetely not the syncros, because there is no grinding at all. Its more like i just hit a wall. I usualy have to let off the gas for a second and then it slides in w/ no problem. It just sucks because i lose my rpms & powerband in the process.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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i retract my previous statement about never grinding the gear. tonight at the track i grinded the **** out of 2nd trying to double clutch and force it in. very bad idea

i hate this transmission and clutch. i probly just need the Driver Mod. i let my friend drive it tonight, who has been driving manual longer than i have, and he said it didnt give him any noticeable problems like 05_Blue_B10WN_SS said, waiting for the revs to drop a lil does help it slide in easier.

is it likely that i am in too much of a hurry to shift and not doing something correctly?
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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you don't need to double clutch unless you're driving a tractor trailer...
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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"Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like ya should."
it wasnt a real double clutch, it was just clutch re-engagement and another attempt at shifting 2nd. i wish i didnt suck at driving

it pisses me off even more that i miss these shifts when i cut really good lights and get low 2 second 60' times
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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ive never had a with the clutch/tranny. i was gettign a hard 3rd gear shift, still went in though and no grinding, but then i just shifted upwards and slightly to the right when shifting into third and goes in like butter every time.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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slave cylinder was shot and leaking. i am thinking that would be why. too bad thats not the only thing wrong with the car
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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I had issues where 2nd gear would pop back out right away after I shifted into it (about 30% of the time). Took 5 trips to 2 different dealers but one finally acknowledged the problem, simply adjusted the linkage, and haven't had any issues since.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bika
title pretty much states my issue. when i get on it and shift at or near redline, it does NOT go into 2nd or i use so much force to get it in that i fear breaking something in the linkage. no other gear does that, and when driving normally its not too horrible going into 2nd but not as easy as i think it should.

have i fucked up something? opinions please.
I have this same issue with my car! It won't go into second over 5500rpm, i have to wait till it comes back down. This issue started when i put in my stage 3 clutch. When i caled cm they sayed its cause i still have air in the lines. I havn't gone to get it bleeded yet but i hope thats the problem and not some thing serious.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
I have this same issue with my car! It won't go into second over 5500rpm, i have to wait till it comes back down. This issue started when i put in my stage 3 clutch. When i caled cm they sayed its cause i still have air in the lines. I havn't gone to get it bleeded yet but i hope thats the problem and not some thing serious.
This is the same problem i'm having right now. I was told by other members that the pressure plate is .05" to thick and that it will get better with time. If you do get rid of this problem by bleeding the system again, let me know and i'll let you know if i find out anything.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Yeah, i wanna smack these little ricer bitches every time they say " I was double clutching". They wonder why I give them a stupid look and say, " Why in the hell would you double clutch?! WTF did you put in an after-market 10 speed with a split shift?

Technical term " Kickin' the clutch".
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SStud
This is the same problem i'm having right now. I was told by other members that the pressure plate is .05" to thick and that it will get better with time. If you do get rid of this problem by bleeding the system again, let me know and i'll let you know if i find out anything.
Cool thanks i am going to take it back for another bleeding sometime next week. Ill let you know if it helps or not. Thanks
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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bring it intto he dealer they should chnage it unless ur dealer is full of dumb ppl(like mine who know **** about cars)
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
Cool thanks i am going to take it back for another bleeding sometime next week. Ill let you know if it helps or not. Thanks
I'm gonna run mine to a friend who works on transmissions and see what he says. He's pretty good so i'll let you know when i get back what he has to say.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
you don't need to double clutch unless you're driving a tractor trailer...

Maybe if it's a truck made back in the 30's. Moder truch transmission are built to only require the clutch when starting from a dead stop.

DCing causes less wear on the syncros yes, but it doens't matter much anymore with newer transmissions. Just try to be smooth and you'll have a engine wear out before your trans does.

Yea the clutch system on teh cobalt leaves a LOT to be desired. I've hadda fix a base balts clutch for a friend. Just used my old slave from my T/A and it fixed the problem.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
Cool thanks i am going to take it back for another bleeding sometime next week. Ill let you know if it helps or not. Thanks
My shop has been on the phone with GM and ClutchMasters i guess and have come up with something. I'm supposed to stop by on my way home from work tomarrow so i'll let you know tomarrow night what i have found out. They seemed pretty confident on the phone and i trust that they have a fix. Once again it's not much of an update but i'll let you know what i have found out.

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