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Old 07-24-2008, 01:50 AM
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'07 Base to Pioneer?

I've got the 2007 LS balt, and just wondering how tough it is to get XM and Onstar working with the 6 cd mp3 HU if I found one on eBay. I'm considering instead of the pioneer unit getting this one because it's got the LCD on it and it looks like it's not aftermarket (since it's not technically). Since I don't have power locks or windows some features of onstar obviously wouldn't work, but would the rest of the features like the monthly email with info in it, emergency response, etc work?

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if its a bowtie 07+ radio then plug and play. onstar is routed thru the HU but not controlled by it. All the speakers in the car will also get quieter
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Awesome. What controls the onstar? I'd really like to hack that into my car.

Quieter? How much quieter? What causes that?
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pioneer is line level outputs non pioneer is speaker level outputs. No idea what controls onstar thou
Old 07-25-2008, 02:11 AM
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Hm. Okay. Would the Onstar still function though?
Old 07-25-2008, 04:19 AM
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should. since onstar is still retained with ur expensive harnesses it leads me to believe the radio itself doesnt have anything to do with it other then speaker outputs. Even then swapping stock to stock they should all be made to handle onstar functions especially the pioneer units
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Hmm, okay. But there's no way to actually install OnStar into a balt that doesn't have it?
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not that i know of... thats a dealership question
Old 07-26-2008, 01:37 AM
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Hmm, okay. When I take my car in on Monday to have my windnoise part installed, I'll ask my service advisor about it.
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No hijack, but would switching to another headunit capable of receiving XM make me lose my current XM signal?
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No hijack, but would switching to another headunit capable of receiving XM make me lose my current XM signal?
IIRC, there is a module for XM Radio in the car that enables it and XM identifies it by that particular module, not the HU. You will need to head to the dealer for the HU anyways since the HU will be locked when you put it in (You will need it flashed to match your car's VIN. Thats how the theftlock works.). If for some reason the new HU causes problems, you could probably get XM to switch your subscription to the new HU (But I doubt this will need to be done).


To the Onstar question:

Onstar has its own module. The only thing the HU has to do with it is to put it to the speakers. IMO, I'd rather not have Onstar. If my car would ever come equipped with it, I'd personally remove the module for it (Looks likely since its now basically standard on nearly every newer GM vehicle from 08+). If you really do want it, you could probably add some basic functions to it, but you would need to buy all of the parts associated with it (Gets expensive very fast... even with GMPD's lower prices.) You would also have to do quite a bit of electrical work to tie it in.
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Originally Posted by Nighthawk243
To the Onstar question:

Onstar has its own module. The only thing the HU has to do with it is to put it to the speakers. IMO, I'd rather not have Onstar. If my car would ever come equipped with it, I'd personally remove the module for it (Looks likely since its now basically standard on nearly every newer GM vehicle from 08+). If you really do want it, you could probably add some basic functions to it, but you would need to buy all of the parts associated with it (Gets expensive very fast... even with GMPD's lower prices.) You would also have to do quite a bit of electrical work to tie it in.
I figured. Oh well. XM is still an awesome thing to have!
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IIRC, there is a module for XM Radio in the car that enables it and XM identifies it by that particular module, not the HU. You will need to head to the dealer for the HU anyways since the HU will be locked when you put it in (You will need it flashed to match your car's VIN. Thats how the theftlock works.). If for some reason the new HU causes problems, you could probably get XM to switch your subscription to the new HU (But I doubt this will need to be done).
Agreed.

The XM module is in the rear deck lid between the 2 rear speakers ( on the top side). Since the XM subscription runs through the VIN number on the car as long as the new HU is flashed to match the VIN you should be fine subscription wise.

That being said, getting the new unit properly flashed to match the car is the real problem, as I understand it rarely works, one member here accomplished it but it took alot of work and he had a hook up through GM. It is addressed in the sticky at the top of the section I suggest you read through it.
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Originally Posted by Nighthawk243
IIRC, there is a module for XM Radio in the car that enables it and XM identifies it by that particular module, not the HU. You will need to head to the dealer for the HU anyways since the HU will be locked when you put it in (You will need it flashed to match your car's VIN. Thats how the theftlock works.). If for some reason the new HU causes problems, you could probably get XM to switch your subscription to the new HU (But I doubt this will need to be done).


To the Onstar question:
Originally Posted by Spun
Agreed.

The XM module is in the rear deck lid between the 2 rear speakers ( on the top side). Since the XM subscription runs through the VIN number on the car as long as the new HU is flashed to match the VIN you should be fine subscription wise.

That being said, getting the new unit properly flashed to match the car is the real problem, as I understand it rarely works, one member here accomplished it but it took alot of work and he had a hook up through GM. It is addressed in the sticky at the top of the section I suggest you read through it.
Thanks to the both of you.
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flashing from one hu type to another is an issue but within the same years its not. i gave my ex gf my mp3 radio with her black face and paid 50 for it to be reflashed
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Well, I'm debating on whether to get the 6 cd xm system or get that cool double din hu from pioneer.
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aftermarket FTW
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