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Old 12-15-2006, 02:36 AM
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i have two batteries and a 5 farad cap. and my car dims at idle
Old 12-15-2006, 02:39 AM
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You must have a large system, I do 750x1 RMS with no problems.
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yes 4400rms X2 and a 800rms
Old 12-15-2006, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by diablo2007
i have two batteries and a 5 farad cap. and my car dims at idle
I have a 100 farad batt cap from kinetic and two other storage batts and my lights dimm like crazy not to mention amps start to see 10
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my amps never see anything below 16.2 but i see where all the power is going
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Originally Posted by diablo2007
my amps never see anything below 16.2 but i see where all the power is going
What do you mean you see were all the power is going.
You see 16 .2 because you have a nice alt i've been trying to get you to help me with that
Old 12-15-2006, 03:10 AM
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i mean that all my power is going to the amps and not anything else hardly
what kind of stereo places do you have around you cause im sure if you went in there they would find a good alt for you and have them install it that way you dont have to deal with the hassle. it took me 8 or more hours for the amp install but that includes going to get materials as i went
Old 12-15-2006, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by diablo2007
i mean that all my power is going to the amps and not anything else hardly
what kind of stereo places do you have around you cause im sure if you went in there they would find a good alt for you and have them install it that way you dont have to deal with the hassle. it took me 8 or more hours for the amp install but that includes going to get materials as i went

The only one around wants to order me one from ohio generators for right at 600 thats not includeing install .
I do all my own installs i just need to know what alternator to from realmofo which one did you get
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Here's another overlooked thing on dimming lights.

How much did you spend on your battery?

I ask, because in my Neon when I had my crappy Farm and Fleet battery my lights would dim like nuts with my system. When that finally crapped out I decided to make an investment in an Optima Yellow Top. Installed that thing and bam no more dimming lights...ever

Just my .02 dollars...err I mean cents :zing:
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Originally Posted by tricky1
Here's another overlooked thing on dimming lights.

How much did you spend on your battery?

I ask, because in my Neon when I had my crappy Farm and Fleet battery my lights would dim like nuts with my system. When that finally crapped out I decided to make an investment in an Optima Yellow Top. Installed that thing and bam no more dimming lights...ever

Just my .02 dollars...err I mean cents :zing:
kinetic kills optima
Old 12-15-2006, 03:21 AM
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i have the stock battery with the yellow top and dim but theres nothing i can really do about it. but for you guys running 1000 watts or less buy a yellow top you wont regret it, it dramaticly helps everything like if you have fog lights, stereo , etc.
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I have 600 watts, and thats probably all I'll ever have, I'm more than content with my setup right now. Well I could use a smaller enclosure.
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Originally Posted by cobalt25
The only one around wants to order me one from ohio generators for right at 600 thats not includeing install .
I do all my own installs i just need to know what alternator to from realmofo which one did you get
the smallest kinetic battery is 3 inches wide and about 7 inches tall with 800 cold cranking amp and it is also is 100 farads they start at about 120 $ they go all the way up to 2400
cold cranking amps retails for about 300 they hold the world record at 181 db.

Help a brother out with the alt dont you have a recipt for it somewere just tell me which one you bought sorry about my spelling
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Originally Posted by cobalt25
the smallest kinetic battery is 3 inches wide and about 7 inches tall with 800 cold cranking amp and it is also is 100 farads they start at about 120 $ they go all the way up to 2400
cold cranking amps retails for about 300 they hold the world record at 181 db.

Help a brother out with the alt dont you have a recipt for it somewere just tell me which one you bought sorry about my spelling
Where did you go Diablo2007???
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that battery is not 100farads.... farad is a unit of energy used for caps... But kinetik says that battery is comparable to a 100f cap. And concerning the cca on it ive yet to see an actual rating on the kinetik site about the ca, cca, and/or the ah of any batteries they offer... the number you are refering to is what kinetik uses to = watts of stereo. Example if you have a 800w system then you should add that hc800 (according to kinetik)

also the smallest battery is the hc600 not the 800 model
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
that battery is not 100farads.... farad is a unit of energy used for caps... But kinetik says that battery is comparable to a 100f cap. And concerning the cca on it ive yet to see an actual rating on the kinetik site about the ca, cca, and/or the ah of any batteries they offer... the number you are refering to is what kinetik uses to = watts of stereo. Example if you have a 800w system then you should add that hc800 (according to kinetik)

also the smallest battery is the hc600 not the 800 model
do you own one hc600 is just the model number and if not well you no what to do
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Originally Posted by cobalt25
Where did you go Diablo2007???
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Old 12-15-2006, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by diablo2007
my amps never see anything below 16.2 but i see where all the power is going
Your new alternator is putting out 16.2 volts?
Old 12-15-2006, 12:40 PM
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my whole new electrical setup max's out at 17.1 thats the highest ive seen it so far, im gonna have to go out and look at the alt to get you a model number and all that
Old 12-15-2006, 12:47 PM
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okay so i found out that excessive amperage makes a 200amp alt for our car that bolts right up and it only costs 290
Old 12-15-2006, 12:50 PM
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When running high power amplifiers like that the best route is to get your alternator rebuilt to about 200amps and then use a good size capacitor to back it up. Any good alternator rebuild place can rebuild anything you want to a higher amperage and usually with in 1-3 days depending on what parts they need. Oh and fuses are your friends.
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Originally Posted by HackAbuse
Well, Over the next few days I will be attempting the "Big 3" upgrade to my electrical in order to cope with the extra amount of strain caused by my new sound system.
For people who don't know what it is, The "Big 3" upgrade is upgrading the following:

1. Battery Negative to Chassis
2. Alternator Negative to Chassis
3. Alternator Positive to Battery Positive


Now, because the battery is in the trunk i needed quite a bit of wire, I calculated that i'd need about 2AWG wire to handle the current from the engine to battery for the least resistance with my power levels, but i found 0/0AWG for cheap, so I compromised.

This is a legendary upgrade for people with High Current Audio Setups (I'm running about 100amps continuous in the trunk). It should dramatically reduce voltage drops related to car audio amplifiers.

Will update this thread with my results. For all of you who dont know waht 0/0AWG is, here is a pic with a penny for reference, its some nasty stuff!

mmm copper
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Originally Posted by diablo2007
my whole new electrical setup max's out at 17.1 thats the highest ive seen it so far, im gonna have to go out and look at the alt to get you a model number and all that
Do you think the computer and other components of the car OK running at 17 volts?
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Originally Posted by Bandit2941
Do you think the computer and other components of the car OK running at 17 volts?
you know ive never checked any of those things with my amperage meter, but to answer your question not at all, but with these new computers im sure the computer only lets it get the power it needs, **** now you got me wondering i hope it doesnt melt anything ive only had my car on for like 30 minute periods
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lol 17v isnt good for the computer ive herd...


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