Here's my take on it....
If you have to get your car equiped with "Onstar" then so be it. (2006 GMs) Pull the darn fuse and replace it when you sell the car.
There are ways around "big brother watching you" but you'll never stop it completely. IF you are a 'target' big brother can and will watch you in many ways. Some of those being from your internet surfing, shopping habits, banking usage and many other ways we don't even realize.
Can Onstar tell somethings we might not want 'Big brother' to see? Absolutly! Things they "CAN" monitor but don't really want you to know; basicly ANY electronic funtion your dash displays to tell you (yes this includes SPEED) They also can see a history of how your vehical has been driven (I am at this time unsure of how long this history is and how often the points are taken it may just be that the peaks are stored) Yes it could be possible to disable the vehical while it's running, but at this time (and maybe for ever) they (big brother) aren't willing to take it that far, as there could be cases where killing a vehicals power could do more harm then good. There are some good things about Onstar but will I be renewing my subscription/service once the 1 year of free service is up. Well that's my option and I'll decide when it's time. One thing is for sure everything in that vehical is mine, and NOT GM's so if I want to take it out, hack into it, or leave it be, or disable it, at this point I can because as of 2005 Our GM products don't "require" Onstar to make our cars run nor will disabling it void any GM warranty. 05SDI
And that my friends may NOT always be the case....

 

i think onstar is a great feature. just don't be doing anything stupid and you should be ok.

 

I wouldn't mind it but the antenna is just awful. I seriously hope it is not standard on the 06 Cobalt SS/SC.
Mine will most likely be a project car so it will be unnessecary and even if it comes standard I'm not paying for it.

 

Does anyone know for sure if Onstar comes standard on the 06 SS/SC? I ordered mine without, but have heard a few places that it is standard. I don't mind it if they would combine the XM antenna with the Onstar antenna.

 

Its not standard but GM is going to start making it standard on most and then all models, Onstar is the best option you can buy for your car... becuase whether its an accident thats your fault or someone else hti you the help is on the way just in case your to injured to use your cell... the fact that onstar will save your life should be enough not to really care about the antenna

 

NOT standard on Cobalts and Pursuits in Canada either.

 

well i dont like the fact that because how you drive can void your warranty, and onstar directly influences that

my friend bought a car with onstar, he hit the governor on the car
when he started it back up, it threw a code, went to the dealership, the code was 'max speed reached'
looked it up in the vehicle logs, and yep
warranty completely voided at 3000miles

im not saying onstar had anything to do with it, but thats an example of how it can screw you

i would never use onstar, but id love for my grandma to have it

 

what's the govenor at? 108. I would rather have a warranty void than have a fatty speeding ticket and possibly your licence yanked.
but when i think of on star i think of the family mini van full of kids.
does on star lower your insurance too?

 

Yes, it does...at least it did on mine because it's an "anti-theft device". If your car is stolen they can use OnStar GPS to help the police recover the vehicle (similar to lo-jack). It's not like it's going to save you a huge amount of money but depending on your company it will make it go down a little.

 

I think onstar is pretty neat. I didn't want it because of the 50 antennas visible on my roof though.

 

Onstar did not have ANYTHING to do with your buddies car reaching max speed and leaving a log... thats just in the cars ECU... also they cannot void your warranty for driving the car as fast as it will go... ever hear of tracks, drag strips?? there is nothing that says you cant drive your car on the autobond over 110??? That claim makes no sense and it sounds like your buddy needs a lawyer... GM is not the cops just a company, they cant give you **** for speeding on the highway.

It does help out a lot on insurance, when i got my quote for insurance on my SS the onstar basic plan actuall offsets itself with how much I would save.

IMO if you think one little black antenna (which means you are driving around one of the safer mroe advanced cars out there) is too ugly for you to notice that it will save your life yoru crazy. It shouldnt even be an option for that reason... it saves lives

 

hey, retard, notice how i said i didnt know whether onstar played any part in that?

and doing 108 will void your warranty, oh whats that you say?
drag strips and race tracks?

yea well car companies dont cover race cars
never thought racing would void your warranty???

are you kidding?
atleast be knowledgeable before you start being an ******* online

 

Easy there...I did not see Chevy4life calling you an ******* or a retard in his posts.

 

yo take it easy, I just get mad when people are sooo sure about something and its not for sure. I stand by saying that your warranty is not void for going that fast... Ive done it many times, and had even engine work done under warranty on my cavalier... they cannot void your warranty if they allow the car to go that fast... if you took off a governer and made it go faster than it could stock you MIGHT have a problem.

Think about it... thats like the rev liniter on the rpms... if you hit it they cannot void your warranty... thats why its there becuase that is the most they think it should go and still be reliable and safe... same with top speed they set it at 110 or wherever it is becuase that is what they feel comfortable with. If they didnt want you going that fast they would set it at 90... you do know there are 90+ MPH speed limits in this country... its not impossible to go 15 over the speed limit and it WONT VOID YOUR WARRANTY

dont call me and ******* and please use some common sense

 

sure, ive only had it happen to a friend, but i guess you're right huh?
and driving habits can void your warranty, look into that

 

I decided not go get it on mine because my insurance, State Farm, said I already had the highest anti theft discount, and it wouldn't do anything to it. I didn't want Onstar to begin with anyways, and only would have got it if it saved me money.

 

Rumor has it that Onstar is working out a deal with state police departments. Rumor also has it that Pennsylvania State Police(PSP) and Onstar are testing out the accuracy of a 1/10th mile average speed to determine if a speeding ticket can be issued. So basically the way the cards are "supposively" falling, an onstar equipped vehicle, which ALL GM cars will have Onstar by 2010, will be watched and ticketed by big brother. Tickets may be processed up to 30 days by law, and delivered by certified mail to the owner of the vehicle. Pennsylvania Departement of Transportation, PennDOT for short, has a points system when it comes to moving violations. With Onstar, speeding violations will be considered as a "Failure to obide by traffic control monitoring devices" which carries a fine the same as a speeding ticket, but does no point damage.


The only part of this info that I can confirm is that Onstar and PSP are testing the accuracy of VSS read out on the OnStar report. All the others have been rumors that have been confirmed by knowledge sources through the PSP that would have authority to make this happen.

 

I just can't buy this. A rental comany tired this a few years ago. THe cars had GPS or something. Upon returning a car they charged him for speeding. It was thrown out of court.

 

I know what you mean, but you need to take the Pennsylvania State Police mindset in to consideration. They would rather get 1 conviction for 1000 speeding tickets then catch 1 drug dealer.

 

first off, the only time your car is recording info is when a DTC sets. and the reason that the cops can tell that you were speeding is cuz when your airbag goes off it sets a DTC. this is called a Freeze Frame record. at no other time is the car recording any info of your driving habits. only monitoring. second, if your doing **** that is ilegal in your car, like driving way to fast, then yes onstar should shut your car off and tell the cops.

 

The only negative side to them being able to shut off your car for speeding are legal race tracks... but technically they are using GPS so if they can see you are in a legal zone they shouldn't shut your car off anyway... i mean if they actually ever crossed that line to start with.

 

They can monitor the cars performance, just like how alot of rental companies are installing black boxes in there cars. I have known people to get fined extra from rental companies, because they say they were speeding, and yes if a car is not operating in normal parameters set by the manufacturer they will as far as I know at least try call before they shut it down. There are sensors placed through out the car that send information constantly as a passive monitoring system. So yes it can screw you

 

Hey, as long as your not acting like an idiot, and Driving like an ass, you won't have a problem. Personally I can't stand it when people can't drive properly. Maybe it's cause someone totaled my car by speeding up to try to get a very late yellow light, but I don't think I see anything wrong with it. Don't do anything illegal if you don't want to get caught. Simple as that.

Oh yea, if I would have had a passenger with me, they probabaly would be dead right now. So think about that for a little bit before complaining that you can't do what you shouldn't do in the first place.

Ok, sorry, but had to let that out.

 

if onstar saw that you were in a race track, it would void your warranty

 

Stfu, Warrany Cannot Be Voided For Max Speed Reached. Your Budddy Is Full Of **** And Needs His Head Examined.

The Car Must Be Backed Regardless Of Driving Habits...i Work For A Dealer, I Took It Drag Racing, And I Know, They Cant Do This. Only The Manufacturer Can Make That Call, And Unless The Car Had An Illegal Mod Done To Void It, Its Not Void. Get Your Facts Straight.