09turbo

just wondering if anyones knows if it is possible to fit a different 10 inch sub in the factory 10 inch pioneer box? or should i not even bother and just build a lil box myself... thanks guys.

BowTieTillIdie

I was wondering the same thing.. Also I was wondering if they made a box for the other side to match .

BLAZIN07SS

iTrader: (7)

it is possible if you have a shallow 10. i tried the swap and i didnt like the way it sounded so i built a 3/4 inch sealed box, sounded much cleaner

09turbo

yea me too! can anyone help us out?

i just want some more bump, not much. i was gonna hook up an amp to it also. what kind of sub did you have? and did you build the box in factory possition? or just a box?
the thing is i dont want to add alot of weight to the car...

sean_halla

I saw a how to on this.. let me try to find it.


https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-guide-43/how-upgrade-rear-sub-78178/

I think that is what you're talking about

09turbo

yea thats what i was talking about. thanks dude. i think i will end up making a box. might take out the spare tire and build a box to fit. if i get a flat, thats what AAA is for. haha.

Jplaya023

yea id say dont bother...you need a certain air space for each sub and once u upgrade to somthing nicer, that box just isn't going to cut it. its pretty cheap now to get just one 12 in. sub and a box with a small amp. possibly 500 with install altogether unless you know what you're doing with audio, in which you'd install it yourself.

09turbo

i know somewhat about the wireing. there are DIYs on youtube. i am thinking about taking out the spare tire and doing a custom box there. then the amp on the back seat, or on the bottom of the rear deck.

BowTieTillIdie

should sound good as long as it's sealed tight.

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

do the amp on the rear seat... also if you do a wheel well box look into fiberglass and put a bit of money and time aside

silver187666

how hard would it be to put a couple of 12inch free airs in there?

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

your not going to want anything free air. you might be able to do infantate baffle but that rarely works with subs and power handling goes way down

silver187666

well i allready got a set of 12inch kickers that are free air, and i just want a little more bump

sptrdss

for those wanting to know about replacing the factory sub in the pioneer box,I have changed my factory sub with an Alpine sub,shallow type, in the factory box,same type 2 ohm.It does in fact sound better but upgrading to an amp and sub in another box I'm sure would sound better.The Alpine sub that I put in does fit just that the pioneer grille will not work on the new sub and I added some extra padding around the bottom seat of the sub where it mounts to the box.The Alpine does sound much cleaner over the factory sub but for now it will do.For whomever is wishing to do the same,I have the Alpine sub model number if your interested,just let me know.

09turbo

yea on the back of the seat it is easier to release heat off of it. why do you say fiberglass?

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

then put em in a box...

making a wood enclosure in there isn't going to be fun or easy especially if you need a bit of airspace (there's probably only 1 or so cubes of space down there... especially with the battery still in the stock location) it looks big but its really not

09turbo

true, i am going to car stereo warehouse, its a place close to me, and they build custom boxes, i have been thinking about geting a shallow mount MTX, the new ones, or maybe one of the new memphis S class shallow mounts. i gotta get a 12. 10 in a seald box wont cut it for me. if i get a shallow mount i shold be good, and yea it looks big untill you measure it out.

EmperorJJ1

iTrader: (5)

thunder thin style? we got 2 at the shop. not bad sounding subs

chris88z24

EQ your input signal to tune out the droning bass frequencies and your sub will hit REALLY hard. I love how mine sounds, it sounds aftermarket and rattles my door skin

sptrdss

very interested in making my sub sound better,not sure what you did to yours as i still have the factory radio,and 7 speaker pioneer set-up.will what you did work on my system?thanks

SS SCHGD

if your changing out the sub I suggest adding another Amp just for it. Made a big difference in my car.


shallow mount Rockford Fosgate P3 with 300 watts RMS.

sptrdss

yeah i changed the sub,put in an alpine sounds much better but needs more umph.Would it be possible for you to forward the amp you purchased and how you wired it in,hopefully is easy.thanks

09turbo

i want to do a full system now, there is only so much you can get out of that factory box...
i went to a local shop. they are kinda expencive, but warrenty their work for the full time i have the car. i talked to the guy i have talked to and baught from before, got a few quotes with different subs and different amps. mainly going with JL, and one setup has an alpine amp. and they warrenty the subs and amps for a minimum of a year, or 2 years. he told me right then and there that i can go somewhere and get it for cheaper but they wont warrenty it at all. if i blow out a sub compleatly, i take it there, they put in a new one, FOR FREE.

these are the quotes...

1-
JL 12 inch w3
JL amp
ported box
labor
wire
=$716

or w/ JL w1
=$600

2-
2 JL 10inch w3
Alpine 1000 watt D class amp
ported box
labor
wire
=$1200

or w/ JL w1
=$820

SS SCHGD-
does it sound good? nice and deap, and does it hit hard?

SS SCHGD

I bought a 5 channel amp, and am running it off a RF 360.1 to get signal for the amp, But the easiest way would be to run a line out converter off the back speakers (or the stock sub wires) to the amp and run the speaker wire from the Amp into the Stock Box for the new sub.

I'm using a RF 360.1 for converting the stock stereo's output to RCAs for the Amp. It sounds much better then Stock, (and I thought the stock system was pretty good for stock) I am sure it will sound even better when I finally get a Good headunit in the car.

It is not 2000 watts RMS in to 2 12's (like my other car was) But I am very happy with it.

Boz1285

how do you like the rf's? that's what i was thinking about putting in my car