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Old 08-01-2013, 08:52 PM
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Whine Through Speakers With Wideband And Radio

I've had a Pioneer AVH-P4300DVD installed for the longest time and never had a problem with feedback through the speakers.

Recently installed an AEM Wideband and whenever both are on, there's a high pitched whine coming through the speakers.

The AEM is grounded to the chassis on the driver's side kick panel and is added to the wiper fuse.

The power wire for the Wideband is going down behind the a pillar and by the amp, etc., down to where the pedals are, and across and behind the center console to the bcm.

If I turn off the radio the whine goes away, but then I got no music.
If I unplug the power wire to my wideband the whine goes away, but then I gots no afr.
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are your RCA cables near a power wire? i think that could cause the interference
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I don't have any RCAs plugged in. Just the stock speakers, sub, and amp.
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try cleaning the ground for the radio
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How would I do that since the ground just goes through the harness to wherever?
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try putting a jumper wire from the rca jacks on the radio to the radio chassis. If that doesnt work disconnect the ground going through the stock harness and run your own ground to the body of the car and see if that helps
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If your wideband ground is on a painted/primered surface it can cause interference too.
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
try putting a jumper wire from the rca jacks on the radio to the radio chassis. If that doesnt work disconnect the ground going through the stock harness and run your own ground to the body of the car and see if that helps
How would I do the bolded?

I feel like it might have to do something with the amp.. If I turn the source off on the radio, but it's still on, the noise goes away. It's only when the speakers are powered up that the noise comes through.

The power lines for the wideband are by the amp, but there's no bare wires AFAIK.
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If your wideband ground is on a painted/primered surface it can cause interference too.
It's bolted to the bare surface to the right side of your foot, behind the panel on the driver's side.
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Bump.
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Good luck on this
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Originally Posted by Gelladuga69
How would I do the bolded?

I feel like it might have to do something with the amp.. If I turn the source off on the radio, but it's still on, the noise goes away. It's only when the speakers are powered up that the noise comes through.

The power lines for the wideband are by the amp, but there's no bare wires AFAIK.


It's bolted to the bare surface to the right side of your foot, behind the panel on the driver's side.
just for testing purposes all you need is a wire with 2 stripped ends that is short. make it do the whine then touch the metal of the rca jack and the metal of the radio chassis.

pioneer has a well known flaw that does this however its much more common with subs installed
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Are you still running the factory radio with a bigger not factory installed amp
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No.. lol.
Running aftermarket radio with stock amp, speakers.
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Go get one of this and that should help you out

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Which is..?
I haven't tested if it's actually the RCA's yet, but it kinda doesn't seem like it.

Like I said, only started AFTER wide band install. With wires only from the wide band being close to the amp.
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im confused as to what you are suggesting from that second line. did you try the jumper wire yet?

Which harness are you using for the radio by the way?
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Originally Posted by Gelladuga69
Which is..?
I haven't tested if it's actually the RCA's yet, but it kinda doesn't seem like it.

Like I said, only started AFTER wide band install. With wires only from the wide band being close to the amp.
Its a noise filter basically it takes the whine noise out that your hearing


Just try one out if I remember correctly they are only like 20.00 dollars so if it doesnt work its not going to be like you spending alot of money on something that didnt do anything for you
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Originally Posted by EmperorJJ1
im confused as to what you are suggesting from that second line. did you try the jumper wire yet?

Which harness are you using for the radio by the way?
Just that everything was fine with the radio until I brought power lines by the amp, that's when noise started happening. But nothing is bare up there AFAIK.

I haven't tried it yet. I hate taking my radio out cause I got a bunch of wires and big boxes jammed up back there. The harness's big box and an HD radio tuner, etc.

It's an Axxess one. I forget which one exactly. For Pioneer without Onstar, even though I got onstar.

To make the whine start, both the radio and wideband have to be on. Unplug the wide band, gone. Turn source off on the radio, gone.
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trust me im 99% sure the pioneer pico fuse is your problem
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I'll try the wire with the RCAs thing today after work.

I did buy this radio used, and never knew if the previous owner used RCA's with it.
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Any luck with this? I've got the same issue (whine through tweeter when powered on) with AEM WB. I'm on stock (Redline 04) stereo with aftermarket subs. If the sensor is unplugged to the WB, goes away. If the Power is unplugged to the WB, goes away. Ground unplugged from WB, goes away. Power to speakers off, goes away. I've tried grounding several places inside the cabin and tapping different fuses, still the same. Getting ready to pass the wires back into the engine bay and see if that helps!

Driving me nuts....
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stock radio eh. thats a doozie try regrounding the stock HU? or adding a run from the HU chassis to the car chassis
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Any luck with this OP? I think a lot of the guys chiming in don't understand that you are not using your RCA outputs on the deck. I have a suggestion, grab power from a different source, I grabbed power for my AEM from the RAP (retained accessory power) fuse at the fuse box. I have never had noise issues, my setup is similar to yours, pioneer AVH-P8400BH, AEM Uego Wideband and an Aeroforce Interceptor and stock amp speakers and sub. Give that a try oh and to get power from the fuse use one of these guys from autozone or similar store it's called add a line or something like that
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Originally Posted by Gelladuga69
How would I do the bolded?

I feel like it might have to do something with the amp.. If I turn the source off on the radio, but it's still on, the noise goes away. It's only when the speakers are powered up that the noise comes through.

The power lines for the wideband are by the amp, but there's no bare wires AFAIK.


It's bolted to the bare surface to the right side of your foot, behind the panel on the driver's side.
like this.
a lot of times it needs done on Pioneer units...

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Grounding is your friend when it comes to car electronics guys. Tapping fuses and adding them is fine, but you have to remember you are putting more power to harnesses that have 18 gauge OEM grounds. Add more. I pigtailed a bolt down ground wire to my stereo wiring harness and attached it to the frame when I did my install. I tapped a new ground the to trunk when I installed my reverse HID's (they clicked the speakers before I did this when they turned on). You never want to run a power wire next to signal wires. If you must then you need some better shielding over the power. Even up my pillar all of my gauges are powered by the OEM boost gauge, but I added an extra ground for each one.

Also, think about an AUX fuse panel for your aftermarket stuff. I am doing this before I add more things that draw power. I will probably add a grounding block at the same time.
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