Ok, as stated in the title i want a super charger and seeing as how no makes or is going to make a kit I am doing it my self. Im not disclosing anything else until i do some more research. I just have a couple questions.

1. SS S/c is your serpentine belt ribbed on both sides.
2. Length of serpentine
3. Distance from S/c pulley bolt to alternator pulley bolt
4. Does the Ingalls ETD let the engine move back and forth

Thanks in advance


~Nick

 

The belt shouldn't be your problem because it should actually be the same distance.

The amount of ribs on the belt is another thing. I believe they are 6 ribbed and your might be 5 (don't quote me on that).

 

Bump Bump

 

But are they double sided?
I was planning on using the tensioner and Idler arm from an SS/SC any way

 

I would think your best bet is to get the s/c kit from GMPP and use a ss s/c flash if possible...maybe a stage flash or something of the sort. It has everything you need to do this sort of thing, but your main problem is your car is a left breather the ss are rights...

 

You are not going to do anything to an L61 equipped Cobalt until you get a computer. Period. No turbos, no supers, no forced induction period. The E16 ECM in the car does not have tables for more then a one bar MAP. It simply won't deliver fuel. There are no piggy-back units for the E16. If you use a stand alone, you will disable your instrument cluster, power steering, and a bunch of other little stuff (not to mention it won't be emmisions legal).

GM Performance has only just gone to market with the stage kits for the SS. That took them, what, about a year. You should expect the Supercharger kit for the L61 in about a year from now if you follow that logic. They already have all the hard parts, they just need to make an ECM flash that they can feel safe putting a warrenty on.

 

HP Tuners...LOL

 

Why go through all this trouble and do all this research and spend all this money and not know if it will even work when you can just get an SS/SC???????

 

The thing is I can work with it being a left hand breather, not using a roots type supercharger :

So even if i upgrade the fuel pump and put a manual regulator on it, it still wont work?
How difficult would it be to put a different ECU in from a ss/sc?

 

^^^^^+1

 

HP Tuners does not yet support the E16. They plan to, but they don't yet.

The ECM's from the L61's and the LSJ's are two completely different boxes. They are not interchangable.

 

well that shoots that down, lol

 

I've been thinking about this too, would we have to get an SS wire harness if we got the computer?

Just throwing ideas out there...

 

Lets See my biggest reason is when i try to insure an SS/Sc being 19, living by my self, my insurance company laughs at me casue when the run the VIN number and they see stock supercharger. So I can pay 4 grand once and have a supercharger or I can pay 8 grand a year till my rates go down when im 25, plus a igher car payment and be completely broke just paying bills and have a SS S/c.

 

But Still can someone just answer my questions?
Plus I dont wanna hear another just buy an SS S/c, that is the only thing ou 2.0 guys ever say when he 2.2 and 2.4 guys talk about modding thier cars. Also whats wrong with putting effort and having pride in the work youve done on your car and it being original.

 

Bump

 

I believe I did answer your questions. Yes, you will need a higher pressure fuel pump, but if your computer has no data for a particular MAP, it won't fire the injectors or spark plugs. It won't matter how much fuel pressure you have.

Re-routing the induction plumbing is easy.

 

Took them a little longer than that, the first production LSJ car came out in 04. Actually late 03 if you count when the 04 Redline was released.

 

Wow ask a question get bashed. and still dont get your question answer.
THIS THE BELT ON AN SS/SC ribbed on both sides and how many ribs.
Thats all i want to know i dont care if you say it's no going to work or what, just want info

 

ribbed both sides 6 ribs
Belt that comes with 2.2 s/c kit is 5 ribs both sides.
you might want to look into aftermarket kits but without the tune you will be hard pressed,

 

Thing is Im running a Centrigual S/C and based on that fact I believe I can safely run 8 lbs of boost on 39 lbs fuel injector (stock SS S/C) by letting the ECU re calibrate it self. This is based on other kits for cavys that dont include flashes

 

Your computer will try to learn to idle with the bigger injectors properly NOT supply fuel during boost. Your computer wasn't designed to read boost (above atmosphere pressure), all it cares about is vacuum. Even with having bigger injectors, it's going to lean out cause it doesn't know what to do.

People who don't have flashes on their pcm or standalones w/j-bodies have FMUs. They raise fuel pressure per lb of boost.

So if you think putting bigger injectors is all you need, you're mistaken. Also a side note, you're going from about 26 lb injectors to 39...I HIGHLY doubt your computer will learn how to idle with them properly and you'll flood your motor unless you find a way to turn down the fuel pressure during idle, it will do so. You can look into getting an Fuel Pressure Regulator.

 

I think some of the HPtuner jbody guys are trying to do a pcm 2 bar retune. Basically you replace the MAP with a 2 bar unit and you fudge all the fueling tables.

Most of the ecotecs are Alpha N or MAP/IAT based fueling (no MAF ) right?
I know my 03 Alero is at least.

 

Yes, the J-body ECOTEC guys use an MAP/IAT setup, no MAF (I should know cause I have one haha). Right now, I converted over to the TMAP sensor that the 2.0 Cobalt uses and got the GM Supercharger reflash...having a problem with my SAFC and need to remove it to know if it's working 100%, untill then, I won't know.

Alot of people are giving me mixed messages on if the Bar MAP sensor will work with the reflash or if it won't...I'll find out in the future from HP Tuners themselves if it will or won't.

 

Hey stop getting angry dude they are just trying to save you time. Good luck with your project but i don't think it will work i guess you will be using a procharger u will need a computer solution until you have that the only thing you can do is mount it up and wait till you have a computer to run it. By the way I voided the warranty on my car with my mods and the other day the car started idling funny it cost me 200 dollars for them to say they don't know what the problem is. You would be better off paying your car off asap and using it towards a new car maybe a camaro by the time that would happen.
Nobody is bashing just Good Luck!