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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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You can make a custom charge pipe to route to where the original pipe WOULD/SHOULD be and then use a CAI kit and mount it like as if the unit was right where it should be.
i'm pretty sure thats what garretts kit is gonna include since thier kits retain the stock airbox a cai should be able to be retained as well
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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i just bought the corsa touring exhaust too so now im all set for this kit to come out
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Correct me if i'm wrong but @ 10.4:1 compression ratio that's too high for F/I so you'll need a thicker head gasket to drop the ratio to 8 something...
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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it is high bit it can be done with moderate boost on stage 1 at about 6 psi which with my setup should net me about 220 whp until i can do tranny and intenal and fuel mods it will work fine
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
You can make a custom charge pipe to route to where the original pipe WOULD/SHOULD be and then use a CAI kit and mount it like as if the unit was right where it should be.
that doesn't make any sense at all, the intake piping will be coming from opposite sides of the engine when you are talking NA vs turbocharged. With a CAI you could route the piping to go down into the fender where a CAI normally goes but there goes your Injen intake that you just spent $220+ on. And even with a stock airbox the whole box and piping would technically be facing a different way but whatever, I'm just being picky I guess.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
it is high bit it can be done with moderate boost on stage 1 at about 6 psi which with my setup should net me about 220 whp until i can do tranny and intenal and fuel mods it will work fine
hmmm...unless you know a way to raise your compression to like 9.5:1 or something, i don't think it's worth all that money. 6psi = poop. with stock internals and trans/drivetrain (maybe clutch upgrade) you could run approx 16psi and push closer to 250+hp with little to no mods. the only reason these turbo kits give you such low output numbers is because they are running super low boost. if you don't have the right compression, you can't run a decent amount of boost and essentially waste your money. I'm sure there is a headgasket out there that will give you the compression you need. but i'd seriously look into that first!
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Correct me if i'm wrong but @ 10.4:1 compression ratio that's too high for F/I so you'll need a thicker head gasket to drop the ratio to 8 something...
Werd, Big Intercooler, 91 or higher gas all the time and Low Boost... Heat and fuel management will be very required to limit the chance of detonation at such a high compression ratio.

It will scream though, High compression and mild boost is more powerfull, just easier to blow up...
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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well, i think i will be very happy with low boost and high compression for a while. it will be temporary only though since i cant boost higher than that even if i did lower compression becasue the transmission still needs reworked to handle more power so first i will get teh turbo kit and put that on with lots of tuning done before running hard, then i will work on the transmission then i will do internals...220 hp should be good for me for the time being while saving to do all those things
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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9 months huh. I am waiting to here it's twins!

twin turbos!
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
well, i think i will be very happy with low boost and high compression for a while. it will be temporary only though since i cant boost higher than that even if i did lower compression becasue the transmission still needs reworked to handle more power so first i will get teh turbo kit and put that on with lots of tuning done before running hard, then i will work on the transmission then i will do internals...220 hp should be good for me for the time being while saving to do all those things

Is it an AUTO?
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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yes it is an auto just like gm's race cars are auto...
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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yes it is an auto just like gm's race cars are auto...

Wow, I don't know if it's just BS or if there is some truth to the matter, but I think Autos dont like HP without some serious work such as Cooling and Torque Converter upgrades..
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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there is truth to the matter, check up on gary gardella that races a red cobalt in the nopi x box cup hes one of the fastest cars on there and he uses an automatic, its true that auto need alot of work to be bulletproof in high hp applications and i plan on doing the work like half cent is doing for around $3500 which is worth it to have perfect shifts everytime i race and never worry about misshifting but the turbo will go on with the stock tranny at first and i will limit the tq to 200 pounds until the tranny gets reworked and the internals are done, its a long and expensive process but a fun one.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
there is truth to the matter, check up on gary gardella that races a red cobalt in the nopi x box cup hes one of the fastest cars on there and he uses an automatic, its true that auto need alot of work to be bulletproof in high hp applications and i plan on doing the work like half cent is doing for around $3500 which is worth it to have perfect shifts everytime i race and never worry about misshifting but the turbo will go on with the stock tranny at first and i will limit the tq to 200 pounds until the tranny gets reworked and the internals are done, its a long and expensive process but a fun one.

Great, I wasn't insulting, I was just concerned that it was not part of the original plan...

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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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i know , its cool, no insult taken just wanted to explain my plan
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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has anyone considered ordering a ready built tranny? I mean one thats rated for say 500HP to the wheels? I know there are trannys pre-built to these kinds of specs. I wanna know if I could fit a 4T65eHD under the hood of my bad boy
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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has anyone considered ordering a ready built tranny? I mean one thats rated for say 500HP to the wheels? I know there are trannys pre-built to these kinds of specs. I wanna know if I could fit a 4T65eHD under the hood of my bad boy

Most Stock Manual trannys can handle 400 with Clutch and driveshafts...
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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has anyone considered ordering a ready built tranny? I mean one thats rated for say 500HP to the wheels? I know there are trannys pre-built to these kinds of specs. I wanna know if I could fit a 4T65eHD under the hood of my bad boy
give me a link to this tranny and ill consider it
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Would any ecotec piston work or are they specific to each engine ie 2.2, 2.4, 2.0
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
there is truth to the matter, check up on gary gardella that races a red cobalt in the nopi x box cup hes one of the fastest cars on there and he uses an automatic, its true that auto need alot of work to be bulletproof in high hp applications and i plan on doing the work like half cent is doing for around $3500 which is worth it to have perfect shifts everytime i race and never worry about misshifting but the turbo will go on with the stock tranny at first and i will limit the tq to 200 pounds until the tranny gets reworked and the internals are done, its a long and expensive process but a fun one.
the car driven by Gary Gardella is a full out drag car...
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
the car driven by Gary Gardella is a full out drag car...

Like "Stock Class Drag" or like A Tube Frame with the Skin of a Cobalt "Drag Car"
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
the car driven by Gary Gardella is a full out drag car...
i know but its still a cobalt
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Like "Stock Class Drag" or like A Tube Frame with the Skin of a Cobalt "Drag Car"
heres a write up on it

http://www.motorsport.com/news/artic...?ID=175795&FS=
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Like "Stock Class Drag" or like A Tube Frame with the Skin of a Cobalt "Drag Car"
heres a pic of the car if you scroll down

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...d.php?p=257394
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by celicacobalt
heres a pic of the car if you scroll down

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...d.php?p=257394

Yeah, Oh, not Built at all...
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