Haltech units aren't a secret or anything

www.haltech.com

The thing is, if you're wiring this up and you run into a problem, do you want to call Australia or wait like 7 hrs or so difference in time for an e-mail?

 

I guess for a turbo kit it would be worth it though right? I mean if these n/a guys are serious, then it should be worth it...

 

A full standalone unit isn't necessary if you have a basic turbo kit and running low amounts of power. You can get a standalone fuel management unit that just controls the fuel injectors and even the ignition like megasquirt but that's if you choose to.

 

i get it at home, for free..



sorry, couldn't resist!

 

Haltech units are nice, but the EMS alone is abour $1200. Most of the users on here would not benefit from it making low to moderate power.

 

I understand it wouldn't for low power apps, but right now they can't do ANYTHING to do with boost, and it's not looking like it's gonna be real soon...unless I missed some stuff. If this is the only option for someone to run boost then I'm just surprised no one has done it yet. I wish they would develop some kits for you guys soon, and actually put them out, I think it is very cool that they want to go fast, who doesn't want faster, no matter how fast i go I always want more...

 

You guys right now basically need a fuel management unit...not a full Engine Management System. An engine management system would be usefull for someone who is doing all types of motor internal changes that would cause conflict with the computer cause they're doing something radical. You can get a standalone FUEL management unit like Megasquirt. It allows you to take control of your injectors from the computer and adjust via laptop.

www.megasquirt.info

 

then are you suggesting that something like a maf-t or mini afc would be adequite for a turbo applications? i think there is more to it.

 

I'm sorry but I don't know what an MAF-T or a MINI AFC is...are you talking about like an SAFC?

 

If this option has been out there since before cobalts were made, how come no one has slapped together a make shift kit with parts for the cavalier turbo kit?

I guess when my car is off lease , if someone hasn't cracked our ECU by then I'll be the first

 

Megasquirt has been around for a while and people have used them on their j-bodies. I was even going to use it but things fell through as far as helping me hook it up cause it's kind of an involved install.

 

these are basically what the LSJ guys were using before HP Tuners came out to work out their air/fuel management issues.

MAF-T basically tricks the MAF into thinking more air is coming into the engine then there really is so that it will send more fuel to the engine. And then I believe they were using the Mini AFC to control the fuel, not exactly sure what all they were doing with it.

 

oh...

so basically like a resistor type of adjustment that messed with voltages.

 

both the maf-t and the mini-afc work in the same way. they trick the computer to adjust fuel curve.

 

Simple MAP or MAF manipulators are an easy fix for fuel delivery.

 

DEZOD, please try and finish us a kit and save us from being n/a !

 

If the market isn't there, he's not going to spend time and money on building a kit. Right now, everyone with a 2.2 says they want a turbo kit but lets see how many of them are ready to dish out $3500. It's just a known fact, people want what they can't have or think twice before spending that much money on "just a cobalt".

 

No if we get 20 small down payments (non-refundable), then we will go ahead and do a kit.

 

how much for the small down payments? a grand?

 

i would need to know a ball park price before i put a down payment up

 

well i guess us 2.4 owners are out of luck then

 

Probably about $500-1000 each user.

 

sorry don't really mean to bump this up again but that kinda caught my eye.

if you are looking at making a kit for 20 people and lets say the kit is about $3500. Essentially what you're looking for to build a kit for the 2.2 is about 70G's.

Now I could understand 10 pre-orders but for the Cobalt crowd 20 is kinda pushing it.

 

if they just make the kit then it will sell

 

you get a better response and opportunity to make and sell the kits if you give us the exact details on what we need to put down, how much it will cost including the deposit, what estimated HP it will give the 2.2L, and how much is shipping...