I am kind of sad to see the blower go, I really like blowers. They have more of a "domestic power" appeal to me then a turbo does. Turbo's are more efficient (And thus why I guess the manufactures are going to them), but they are also less reliable and dont sound/look nearly as cool as a supercharger.

 

I am not surprised at any of this.

I said there was no mid cycle refresh for 08 months ago but got flmed so bad I deleted the post.

Someone else said the LSJ was toast for 08. The 2.0 Turbo will either be a late 08 intro or 09.


This is very cmmon---when the c5 and then c6 Corvette came out the Z06 was not avaiable at the start.

GM knows the popularity of the S/C Cobalt---they won't leave us out to dry. We just get a better engine

 

Agreed.

 

The SS/SC isn't as popular as you may think. For the main fact that its a manual. Most people these days don't wish to drive it, or have no idea how to drive a stick. Its enthusiam base wans't too big, also do to the fact that sometimes people were uninformed and about the 2.4L, thinking they were getting the 2.0L.

 

So I assume after 4 pages everyone agrees this is indeed true info from GM?

 

I think we should just wait and see in the summertime whats going down

 

You mean the original post? Yes it is. Its a copy/paste from the GM Dealerworld Site.

Everything else about the turbo, etc. is only speculation until it hits that site.

 

I think its plenty popular. I see tons in Alberta. GM sold alot and makes a profit--the model is good for the Cobalts image. They would be stupid not to continue.

Are some people turned off by the stick? Sure but some aren't. I can't comment about stupid people who thought the 2.4L was the 2.0

 

I think it will be kinda neat then that my 2.4 will kinda be a rare breed being badged as a SS from the factory. I know it doesn't mean anything as far as resale goes, but just the fact that it will be different is kinda cool I guess.

 

You didnt hear? Its supposed to be a 74 Trim Twin Turbo HHR with a ZO6 6 speed??
That would be sick though......

Well Saturn already released that they were stopping production of the Ion Redline and this goes along with it too.
Just wait and see guys, either A) They keep making it or B) They stop and we have rare cars like the SRT 4 and SVT Focus

Only time will tell

 

Hey,,

Where did you get all this detailed info? I want to read too!

Thanks..
GTO 1

 

But, to the general public, whom drive auto, its not anything to shake a stick at. People wnat good gas mileage cars that aren't stick and they can do 20 differnet thigns at oen time. The average, everyday population is tons larger than the enthusiast population.

You're right, some people are turned of by stick, and some aren't but more people, here in north america, drive auto, the day to day drivers.

The post is on the first page.

 

im sad! i know my 2.4 wasnt the SS that many had hoped the name would resemble, but its still an SS! and now where that cool little ss logo stands, will be "sport" and its supercharged bretheren will be no more.

we are a dying breed. i guess its time to sell it while it still has some value and just save up for a camaro that will be powerful yet eat all my gas

 

I am not sure why you are arguing with me. Maybe argue is too strong a word??

Do I agree that the manual only S/C turned some away? Of course I do. I know how prevailent the automatic transmision is in North America.

The 2 dr only thing was stupid too---some undoubtedly want the convience of a 4 dr and to have the power of the S/C SS.

I think my orginal point still stands---the S/C SS (despite the 2 short comings mentioned above) is still a popular car. It's fast, handles great and is very affordable. GM will not abandon the top performing Cobalt to an NA 2.4L---that's pretty much all I was saying.


yes....no talking...that bad! Seriously, there were similar posts like this last year---with the expection of pace blue being a reality---it was a ll true. THis is hardly earth shaking top secret news.

Look here the thread---made April 2006

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...ghlight=Change

Wow thats early too and 95% correct!

The 2008 Corvette RPO codes were found out about MONTHS ago---and they included the new LS3 code---thats the 430hp LS3.

I mentioned this to my salesman---he did not even know--but I told him it's tru and look who was right!

 

I think you are correct sir. I'm guessing the LNF in '09-'10.

 

so laser blue came out in 07 and died in 07 correct?

 

Hate to play the devils advocate, but who knows if that plant will even be building cars after sept.. UAW contracts are up and who knows whats gonna happen, I can only hope the union i work for can settle early before things get hot..

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=48623

EDIT...

The future of thousands of autoworkers could also be hanging in the balance, all because of a quiet decision by General Motors.

That ominous decision is to postpone the development of the so-called Delta platform, the next generation of small car. It looked like that project was destined for the the Lordstown plant. But when GM brass in Detroit shelved that project, international leadership of the United Autoworkers Union suspended local contract talks.

Local UAW 1714 President, Dave Green says his bargaining committee's actually made good progress toward getting a new local contract. The goal is to agree on a set of work rules that keep Lordstown plant efficient and competitive.

But there are some sticking points, like the company's proposal to have employees work ten-hours a day, four days a week with no overtime. There's also the idea of replacing union janitors at 28 dollars an hour with outside help making less than half that wage.

Here's what's at stake: a small car much like the Opel Astra that would supposedly be built at the Lordstown in 2009, when the Cobalt and G5 are retired.

Dr. David Cole, Chairman of the Center for Automotive Research, says it's critical to America's Big Three car makers to get the flexibility for radical restructuring when they negotiate national contracts with the UAW this summer.

Locally, union leaders are confident the outcome will be favorable.

Officially, General Motors spokespeople won't comment on the status of a product in development. Any definitive announcement on a new product for Lordstown probably won't come until after the company and union hammer out a new contract later this year.


Another Link About this subject....

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=48635

 

I was talking to the VP of Chevy and he said for 08 the cobalt SS is going to be Dual Turbo and a Blower (Yes Twin/Tripple Charged) on the 2.4 VVT motor pushing around 650whp, 6 Speed auto or manual, Rear Wheel Drive with 18 Inch Wide Tires, it will do low 6s in the Quarter be able to do wheelies and get 78 MPG highway and 62 City and be just under $18,000.00 US.

 

No , this was planned . The HHR SS with the LNF 260hp/6-speed eco starts production this fall . The Cobalt SS WILL return for the 2009 model year with this same engine and trans . FYI - just because its a 2009 does not mean it has to come out in 2009 . The HHR SS will be made just before the new year in 2007 and it will likely be labeled a 2009 . Anything released typically after Jan , 1 of any given year is given the following model year .

This HHR is your mechanical glimpse to the 09 Cobalt SS , turbo naysayers .....this is your proof . All this was said to happen over a year ago , but of course ...were crazy The fact GM did not sign a new supplier agreement for a supercharger to use on the ecotec should speak volumes in itself

HHR SS link
http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrole...ss-future.html

 

Popular, yes, but out of all Cobalt sales it is very small. If someone can find some sales figures they are welcome to post them, but I'd be HIGHLY surprised if the two SS models COMBINED make up more than about 10% of all Cobalt sales. A turbo or LNF Cobalt will similarly be a small segement of total Cobalt sales.

 

as a sidenote.....If you cant drive a stick....or have no wish to.
then you shouldnt be buying a car like the ss/sc anyway.


just my opinion.
but i personally think automatic transmission in sports style cars is blasphemy. (except paddles of course)

 

"just my opinion.
but i personally think automatic transmission in sports style cars is blasphemy. (except paddles of course)"

So are 4 doors and front wheel drive ones

 

I somewhat agree, BUT
fwd is a matter of cost.
automatic transmission is a choice.

and I grew up watching V8 supercars in Australia.
and those are some 4 doors that any race fan would kill for.

 

o well...
that is why GM just silde under Toyota for total sales in the 07 and soon to be 08 years...but, who wants to but AMERICAN cars...whatever..I STILL LOVE YOU GM!!!

 

I agree and if I wasn't married, I would own a SS/SC. But I was atleast able to convince the wife that we needed the SS model. It may be an auto and have 4 doors, but is still very fun to drive.