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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:57 AM
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2008: Supercharged SS dropped from the model lineup, while the SS Coupe and SS Sedan were renamed to "Sport Coupe" and "Sport Sedan" respectively. XM Radio, side-impact air bags for improved safety, and MP3 player are now standard instead of options. StabiliTrak stability control system introduced. Other changes include the adding and removing of several colors and interior colors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Cobalt

if this is true, wikipedia is fairly reliable, our cars will be gems in like 3 years . we will be getting sick profit when we decide to sell.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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Resale for the win
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Old May 25, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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I'm pretty sure it won't be. There are thousands of these things on the roads.
there are thousands of GMC syclones and typhoons too, but they are rare, and expensive as hell for how old they are...
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Old May 25, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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I'm happy with my early 07 SS/SC that came with Recaros..I'll keep her, maybe do a lil Turbo swap of my own, and buy a new Camaro the second model year that they are out. Done and done
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tkaugh29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Cobalt

if this is true, wikipedia is fairly reliable, our cars will be gems in like 3 years . we will be getting sick profit when we decide to sell.

what do you mean IF this is true? Don't tell me you don't believe???? You know the earth is round right??

It'sa compact high performance econobox....your all dreaming if you ever think they'll be worth much at all.

Case in point---89 20th aniversay Trans Ams--1550 built-3.8L "250hp" V6 Turbo--original MSRP was 29K--go check ebay---only the ones with super low miles might get that.

It takes a really long time for car to appreiaciate too. Unless your talking an Enzo Ferriar or some ultra low proiduction exotic...it tkaes decades.

I bet they built over 15 thousands S/C Cobalts...minimum.

oh btw---2995 Syclones were built and 4697 Tyhoons
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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what do you mean IF this is true? Don't tell me you don't believe???? You know the earth is round right??

It'sa compact high performance econobox....your all dreaming if you ever think they'll be worth much at all.

Case in point---89 20th aniversay Trans Ams--1550 built-3.8L "250hp" V6 Turbo--original MSRP was 29K--go check ebay---only the ones with super low miles might get that.

It takes a really long time for car to appreiaciate too. Unless your talking an Enzo Ferriar or some ultra low proiduction exotic...it tkaes decades.

I bet they built over 15 thousands S/C Cobalts...minimum.

oh btw---2995 Syclones were built and 4697 Tyhoons
ok hotshot. search on auto trader, there is about 10 ss/SC all across canada for sale, thats average of 1 per province not including the north. im pretty sure in a few years there will still be a high demand for them, just like all these teenie boppers are high on 00 preludes they resell for like 16-20 grand with decent kms. our car is unreal, it will be liked for years to come. we arent saying in 3 years we can sell them for the the sticker price but in a few years i bet we could sell it for over 20+ grand CANADIAN
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tkaugh29
ok hotshot. search on auto trader, there is about 10 ss/SC all across canada for sale, thats average of 1 per province not including the north. im pretty sure in a few years there will still be a high demand for them, just like all these teenie boppers are high on 00 preludes they resell for like 16-20 grand with decent kms. our car is unreal, it will be liked for years to come. we arent saying in 3 years we can sell them for the the sticker price but in a few years i bet we could sell it for over 20+ grand CANADIAN
you really made me laugh....Hotshot! How ever did you know my TOP GUN nickname?? hehe.

So theyre aren't that many for sale on the trader right now. Big deal--does not prove anyting. Wiat a few years after lots of KMS and use. They'll be cheap.

It s 3 year run--they made lots. They aren't rare--not in the rare valuable sense. Recaros would fetch a higher price but you have no clue what your talking about.

Why didn't you dispute my examples of the 89 TTA, Syclones and Typhoons. They are worth far less then they were new and they are actaully rare.

Oh and the Honda Preludes? Yeah they sell for alot...but they are Hondas! They have the best resale value fo any car maker. Or did you not know that? Too much hype IMO.

You want to see high prices? Look at autotrader.com---check out prices on Trans Ams---there are some real nut jobs that price the cars real high and they are noting special! And guess what? They do not sell! Just cause some jackass puts a high price does not mean it sells for that, if at all.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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That GM rep was incorrect . Within GM it is already known , given no setbacks , the 2009 Cobalt SS will start production in April of 2008 ....complete with the 2.0 DI turbo engine .
The car may be back in '09, but I can guarantee that it won't be labeled "SS" The marketing dept. at Chevy decided that the SS label is only worthy of vehicles w/ a V-8 and high performance. I think we need to all start modding our cars to hell, videotape us racing (and beating) anything w/ a V-8, and send these stories/videos to Chevrolet corporate. It really shows the age of those in charge of the company, as well as their inability to recognize the current buyer trends. We need to build the following that the SRT-4's have if we want this car to keep its value. Apparently Chevrolet has never heard of an STI or an EVO. . . end rant.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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^^^ I agree with you. The car will be back in 09 with DI Turbo, but I don't think it will be an SS.

They already renamed/badged the 2.4 as "Sport".
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Old May 26, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by N8s07SS
The car may be back in '09, but I can guarantee that it won't be labeled "SS" The marketing dept. at Chevy decided that the SS label is only worthy of vehicles w/ a V-8 and high performance.
well I dunno about all that... so is there going to be a one year run for the HHR SS? As far as I've heard the HHR SS is still a go, unless soemthing changed, and its a 4 banger
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Old May 26, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Heres one interesting bit of info I found when I printed the 08 cobalt book.



Look at the engines listed as compatible with the Touring/Performance Exhausts.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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And before people question it . That is GM accesories listing , the 2.0 LSJ is there to cover the 05-07's .
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Old May 26, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Yeah good call mentioning that. Another thing of note is that the LNF might only be listed because the HHR is on the same platform. Of course its nice to think maybe its there because there are plans of putting the LNF in the cobalt.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by N8s07SS
The car may be back in '09, but I can guarantee that it won't be labeled "SS" The marketing dept. at Chevy decided that the SS label is only worthy of vehicles w/ a V-8 and high performance.
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Chevy has indeed rethought the SS label. However, no where i have read thats it's V8 only.

Post your direct quote.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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I don't have a direct quote to post, because I heard it from my dad. He is pretty high up in GM, and when I asked him about the cancelling of the SS, that is what he told me. He said that they have been debating the "SS" label for quite some time, and finally came to a decision. He was not part of the decision making, but he knows people who were. I think it's pretty sad myself, but I guess GM will learn from experience just like everything else. Take a look at the new Equinox "sport" (3.6L V-6 w/ 260-270 hp). You know that would have been labeled SS a year ago. I think GM needs to take ques from Dodge and just label the engine, not the car (SRT-4,6,8,10). They basically have that setup already, the LSJ/LNF (4), 3.6 V-6 (not sure the code, but it's in the G-6 GTP and Saturn Aura), LS2, and the LS7. Think about it though, kind of odd that the new "SS" Vette is coming out right near the same time that they are canning the SS Cobalt.

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well I dunno about all that... so is there going to be a one year run for the HHR SS? As far as I've heard the HHR SS is still a go, unless soemthing changed, and its a 4 banger
Yeah, but chances are, the SS badges that have been caught on the test mule were thrown on before the new SS decision was made. The marketing departments and engineering departments aren't always on the same page throughout a vehicle's development. I doubt it will actually be labeled "SS" when it comes out to production.

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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Do people have a problem with SS badges on a fast 4cly car--aka S/C Cobalts? I don't think so. It's the slower ones--that bring it down. (2.4L auto SS is the slowest current SS)

HHR SS would be fast too. Be interesting to see if your right. Unfortuantley it will be a bit of a wait.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by avro206
Do people have a problem with SS badges on a fast 4cly car--aka S/C Cobalts? I don't think so. It's the slower ones--that bring it down. (2.4L auto SS is the slowest current SS)

HHR SS would be fast too. Be interesting to see if your right. Unfortuantley it will be a bit of a wait.
i would think the ss malibu is slower then the ss na cobalt but i havent looked at the stats.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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No, SS malibu has 240 hp, i'd bet it could easily outrun a 2.4ss balt. The auto 2.4s are dogs.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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I'm just happy that with Stage 2 I currently have the fastest SS chevy makes - that wont last long though....
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Old May 27, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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No, SS malibu has 240 hp, i'd bet it could easily outrun a 2.4ss balt. The auto 2.4s are dogs.

fraid not. the malibu does 0-60 in 7.8 second and the 1/4 in 15.9 and the ss 2.4 does 0-60 in 7.1 seconds and the 1/4 in 15.6 so while the cobalt 2.4 isnt alot faster then the malibu ss it is faster.

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Old May 27, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Ok I am reading this thread and it's starting to sound ridiculous. Stick to the basics. Chevy is not releasing a triple charged 650 hp cobalt. That is totally not going to happen. Go to Ferrari for stuff like that. Oh and they don't even have triple charged cars.

As for confirmation of the Supercharged Cobalt being dismissed. True we have all read it. Not proof enough? The Saturn Ion Redline is also dropped and that also has been confirmed. What they do with the older 07 stock is up to them.

The contract with Eaton has finished so no more GTP, Boneville, Cobalt and the like support for the superchargers. The Solstice and Saturn Sky were aware of this last year around the time when they released the new Turbo models of our engine. Giving people an excuse to pay way more money for the same engined cars.

The SS badge will be removed from Cobalts. A corporate decision made from GM executives. Most of you have read they realized they were getting ridiculous with bad naming the badge to vehicles like the new SS malibu family car. I think the SS Trailblaser should keep it though because for those of you who don't know it was released with a Corvette LS2. 400hp

I entirely doubt the cobalt will be put back into the market down the road as an SS again.
If anything they will have more appropriate vehicles such as an SS Corvette and SS 09Camaro.

As for the HHR don't care, this is a Cobalt forum.

2008 Chevy sport coupe. Manual and Automatic. Cobalt available in 2.2 or 2.4 litre options.
with the growing likelyhood to convert to the newer saturn sky and solstice turbo powerplant option in the future. Money is the answer to 99 of 100 questions. Think about it.
This car is now just like the cavalier.

Ontario plant? good question. I think the mexicans are most likely getting jobs in the near future. Goodbye Canada GM Plants and I am glad. Canadian Gm plants have been very poor for years due to strike morality and high employee turn over rates. Disgusting training. Canadian Cobalt owners check your fasteners after reading this exept the engine. Canadians are getting raped by GM. I was quoted this from a friend yesterday who is retired from owning his own GM dealership for over 30 years. He gets a new car every year still and orders them from the states. lol. Not bashing GM. They are still the largest auto co in the world. With being the most produced provider you will have the most produced problems provided, hope Canadians understand this down the road.

As for the Cobalts, Wicked car 2.2, 2.4 or 2.0 S/C. Consider what you get for the price anywhere else in the world and how easy it is to finance and lease with Gm's amazing low interest rates. Gm also provides a wicked warranty on these cars. For those warrantly worried people out there who want more power and keep there warranty. Remember the warranty doesn't just cover the powertrain. GM has to prove your parts wrecked others and that can be hard if you word everything right. These cars are supposed to take punishment right, like the engine bay says. GM Performance Division. Why would it be any different in a vette. Anyways enjoy your car guys. Can't wait to load up the balt in Forza 2 next week. While my other friend doesn't understand why his 2006 Corolla XRS is in no video games, makes way less power then my 06 balt, takes premium fuel only, has no leather interior, no mp3 capability, crap speakers and has payments much higher then mine monthly (Interest thing again). Just remember your fit and finish isn't as good as his. His will last forever. Funny thing is Cars don't last forever and GM designs there cars to be cost apparent. If the interior lastes the life of the car they have succeded in their job. These are cars we are talking about not houses. Like to know I am saving my money while showing my buddy his Corolla is a taxi cab in BC. Just my two cents.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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fraid not. the malibu does 0-60 in 7.8 second and the 1/4 in 15.9 and the ss 2.4 does 0-60 in 7.1 seconds and the 1/4 in 15.6 so while the cobalt 2.4 isnt alot faster then the malibu ss it is faster.
Auto tranny on both of those?
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Old May 27, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Auto tranny on both of those?

now that i couldnt tell ya, it didnt list what tranny when i looked up the stats.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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fraid not. the malibu does 0-60 in 7.8 second and the 1/4 in 15.9 and the ss 2.4 does 0-60 in 7.1 seconds and the 1/4 in 15.6 so while the cobalt 2.4 isnt alot faster then the malibu ss it is faster.
fraid not

CAr and Driver tested a Malib Maxx SS--they are maybe 200lbs heaver then the normal 4 dr. It hot 60mph in 6.9 and 15.3 in the 1/4 mile.

And the stats you are quoting for the 2.4L SS are from a 5 speed manual.

The automatic is substanialy slower.

So just like I said---the 2.4L auto is the slowest SS in the curent lineup.

Heres the Malibu test

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...-ss-page4.html

C/D TEST RESULTS
ACCELERATION: Seconds
Zero to 30 mph: 2.4
40 mph: 3.5
50 mph: 5.1
60 mph: 6.9
70 mph: 8.9
80 mph: 11.2
90 mph: 14.9
100 mph: 19.2
110 mph: 24.4
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.9
Top-gear acceleration, 30–50 mph: 2.9
50–70 mph: 3.9
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.3 sec @ 91 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 115 mph

I am noit sure if lots people here are blind or have poor reading comprhsinsion---the Top 10 for 20K done by Car and Driver--the numbers fromt eh 2.4L Coblat are for the 5 speed ONLY
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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fraid not

CAr and Driver tested a Malib Maxx SS--they are maybe 200lbs heaver then the normal 4 dr. It hot 60mph in 6.9 and 15.3 in the 1/4 mile.

And the stats you are quoting for the 2.4L SS are from a 5 speed manual.

The automatic is substanialy slower.

So just like I said---the 2.4L auto is the slowest SS in the curent lineup.

Heres the Malibu test

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...-ss-page4.html

C/D TEST RESULTS
ACCELERATION: Seconds
Zero to 30 mph: 2.4
40 mph: 3.5
50 mph: 5.1
60 mph: 6.9
70 mph: 8.9
80 mph: 11.2
90 mph: 14.9
100 mph: 19.2
110 mph: 24.4
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.9
Top-gear acceleration, 30–50 mph: 2.9
50–70 mph: 3.9
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.3 sec @ 91 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 115 mph

I am noit sure if lots people here are blind or have poor reading comprhsinsion---the Top 10 for 20K done by Car and Driver--the numbers fromt eh 2.4L Coblat are for the 5 speed ONLY
Thats more like it. I've driven all versions, and I'll say that the malibu SS, even the Maxx, feels noticably more powerful than the cobalt 2.4. Niether car is anything to write home about, but the 2.4 with an auto is just plain sluggish in stock form. The Malibu with the little toggle shifter and such actually feels pretty good, the extra 70 hp doesn't hurt.
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