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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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Talking '08 Cobalt Turbo gonna happen

Yes it's looking more and more like a Cobalt SS turbo (260hp) is gonna happen, Motor Trend has an artical on a HHR SS with a 2.0L direct inject turbo ECOTEC w/260hp, the same motor that's in the Sky Redline/Solstice GXP! The HHR is on the same platform as the Cobalt/G5, the Delta platform, it's gonna happen.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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They also said that there is a Uber-Vette on the way, the Stingray is the name so far. 600hp supercharged LS7, and a weight below the Solstice/Sky
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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i hope so... i have been waiting for the turbo...
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSonOfS.A.M.
They also said that there is a Uber-Vette on the way, the Stingray is the name so far. 600hp supercharged LS7, and a weight below the Solstice/Sky
Yea ive heard about that, holy shiot that thing is gonna be sooo nasty fast, as if the N/A Z06 isnt already fast enough
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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I might as well stop modding now. I know im going to want to trade.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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There will be a turboed cobalt but you can look for it to be the same if not more than the ss/sc
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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I really wonder how they are going to get that vette to be so light. There must be some expensive lightweight materials going into that car. I mean, just taking the car they have now, adding a blower, intercooler, extra fluids, heat exchanger, is going to add quite a bit of weight. Then after adding all that weight the car is going to somehow lose it all, plus lose extra weight to get down to the 29XX lbs they are aiming towards. I would love to see it happen, but fear it's going to be mighty expensive.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 03gobluecobra
I really wonder how they are going to get that vette to be so light. There must be some expensive lightweight materials going into that car. I mean, just taking the car they have now, adding a blower, intercooler, extra fluids, heat exchanger, is going to add quite a bit of weight. Then after adding all that weight the car is going to somehow lose it all, plus lose extra weight to get down to the 29XX lbs they are aiming towards. I would love to see it happen, but fear it's going to be mighty expensive.
probably like our engines, a whole lot of aluminum
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 03gobluecobra
I really wonder how they are going to get that vette to be so light. There must be some expensive lightweight materials going into that car. I mean, just taking the car they have now, adding a blower, intercooler, extra fluids, heat exchanger, is going to add quite a bit of weight. Then after adding all that weight the car is going to somehow lose it all, plus lose extra weight to get down to the 29XX lbs they are aiming towards. I would love to see it happen, but fear it's going to be mighty expensive.
They've already stated they're going to use more carbon fibre pieces and further strip out sound deadening materials. (The Z06 had a wack removed and as an option you can add it back in).
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Initial price quotes on the Vette are around $100,000.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Initial price quotes on the Vette are around $100,000.
So you're saying it will totally lay waste to the Ford GT for $35,000 less? Pssh, typical GM.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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So you're saying it will totally lay waste to the Ford GT for $35,000 less? Pssh, typical GM.
I thought the current Z06 already whooped the Ford Gt something fierce.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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The Z06 allready embarasses the GT when it comes to performance vs $$$$.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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I fixed your post

Originally Posted by codyss
The Z06 allready embarasses every other supercar when it comes to performance vs $$$$.
Originally Posted by StinkBOMB
I thought the current Z06 already whooped the Ford Gt something fierce.
Well they're close...I wouldn't really say it "lays waste" to the GT.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Who cares. If it's front wheel drive then it's still about pointless. If chevy makes it AWD then I would buy one in a heartbeat.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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Damn...you guys are wayyyyy behind. The ION RL is discontinued in production as of Sept 1, 2006. They are replacing it next fall with the same thing as the opel astra vxr!

Technically its not the same as the GXP and SKY RL because it lays differently in the engine bay and is still FWD.

It is a 2.0L Turbo with 260/260. The Cobalts are going to stop being made in their current plant and start being made in the plant where the ION is in TN.

Much potential thought none the less....
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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It was a turbo Z06 that raped the Ford GT...
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Who cares. If it's front wheel drive then it's still about pointless. If chevy makes it AWD then I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Nah, SRT-4's are FWD, Cobalt SS S/C's are FWD and they are far from pointless. But AWD would be most kick ass.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by StinkBOMB
Nah, SRT-4's are FWD, Cobalt SS S/C's are FWD and they are far from pointless. But AWD would be most kick ass.
Can't call my car pointless but a 300hp FWD car is pretty useless unless u got DR's or only roll race.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverStreak
It was a turbo Z06 that raped the Ford GT...
Uhhh...the Z06 had an intake and tune. That was it.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Can't call my car pointless but a 300hp FWD car is pretty useless unless u got DR's or only roll race.
What about the SRT-4's? Most are beyond 300hp, and everyone serious eventually switches to DR's. FWD cars aren't the only ones to have traction problems at the track, there would be no need for them otherwise
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 03gobluecobra
I really wonder how they are going to get that vette to be so light. There must be some expensive lightweight materials going into that car. I mean, just taking the car they have now, adding a blower, intercooler, extra fluids, heat exchanger, is going to add quite a bit of weight. Then after adding all that weight the car is going to somehow lose it all, plus lose extra weight to get down to the 29XX lbs they are aiming towards. I would love to see it happen, but fear it's going to be mighty expensive.
In addition to what everybody else said. The new Z06s are already at 3,132 lbs. They are the first Corvette in a long time to hit that mark. They don't need to lose any weight.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by StinkBOMB
What about the SRT-4's? Most are beyond 300hp, and everyone serious eventually switches to DR's. FWD cars aren't the only ones to have traction problems at the track, there would be no need for them otherwise
If they drive around on DR's coo but if not good luck with traction. The reason FWD cars are around is that they are cheap. Cheaper cars come with FWD, I can not think of any $60g car that is FWD.

My point is that if you want a drag monster FWD should be ur last choice. If you want a, or only have a, FWD car for drag thats coo.

Im looking for the 300hp mark and thats about it than my attention and money will put into something else.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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I'm not saying that FWD is the best platform for drag. All I'm saying is high HP FWD cars aren't pointless or useless, if they were then the whole rice burner scene would never have taken off, and you wouldn't have cars like the SRT'4s and ours. Speed is about money, how fast do you want to go? Me personally, I only want to go about 13 seconds worth, then I'm done. My car is perfect for what I want. Yes FWD cars are cheap, and there is a reason that Z06's don't come FWD. I know.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
Damn...you guys are wayyyyy behind. The ION RL is discontinued in production as of Sept 1, 2006. They are replacing it next fall with the same thing as the opel astra vxr!

Technically its not the same as the GXP and SKY RL because it lays differently in the engine bay and is still FWD.

It is a 2.0L Turbo with 260/260. The Cobalts are going to stop being made in their current plant and start being made in the plant where the ION is in TN.

Much potential thought none the less....
A company that is trying to save money is not going to retool and retrain an entire plant to build 1 new car. Lordstown will get the Astra if it's going to be built in NA.

The Ion has also gotten a temporary reprieve from the chopping block and will be built until the end of March 2007 now.
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