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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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5 speed newb

ok so i hav only been driving a 5 speed for about 3 weeks now and got my ss/sc for my 18th birthday and graduation (i know, im the only child and i'm very grateful for what my parents have done for me) I'm just woundering what yall do when you are at a roll around 45-50mph and downshift to take off and if u rev up before downshifting. also what way is the easiest on our trannys to take off from a roll. I don't really race that much but occassionally people will do ricer fly bys on me and i want to keep everything easy on my car.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotpants08
ok so i hav only been driving a 5 speed for about 3 weeks now and got my ss/sc for my 18th birthday and graduation (i know, im the only child and i'm very grateful for what my parents have done for me) I'm just woundering what yall do when you are at a roll around 45-50mph and downshift to take off and if u rev up before downshifting. also what way is the easiest on our trannys to take off from a roll. I don't really race that much but occassionally people will do ricer fly bys on me and i want to keep everything easy on my car.

thanks alot
pm your email i will send you some information that could help you...

Originally Posted by Hotpants08
ok so i hav only been driving a 5 speed for about 3 weeks now and got my ss/sc for my 18th birthday and graduation (i know, im the only child and i'm very grateful for what my parents have done for me) I'm just woundering what yall do when you are at a roll around 45-50mph and downshift to take off and if u rev up before downshifting. also what way is the easiest on our trannys to take off from a roll. I don't really race that much but occassionally people will do ricer fly bys on me and i want to keep everything easy on my car.

thanks alot
Trying it this way as the whole document with pictures is struggling in hotmail or out of my regular MSoutlook. Try this and if the other with pictures doesnt go out tonight i will try hispeed at work tomorrow thanks please dont post this on the internet thanks:
CHAPTER 2
GEAR SHIFTING

CLUTCH WORK STARTING OFF

Starting Off- Please don’t slip the clutch!
Starting off requires a driver to engage first gear and bring the clutch pedal up to the point of take-off. Hesitate slightly as the pedal reaches clutch engagement, give it a little gas, and bring the foot promptly off the clutch pedal and onto the dead pedal or the firewall. Don’t slip the clutch. Most clutches are tough and strong and will last almost forever, provided it isn’t slipped. Slipping the clutch or riding the clutch - leaving your foot resting on the clutch pedal while driving - ruins the release bearing and creates heat which kills clutch linings.

Some cars are easier to launch than others. Easy cars to launch smoothly are generally due to two things: a progressive throttle linkage ratio and a well chosen first gear ratio for the mass of the car and torque of the engine.

A progressive linkage opens the throttle slowly at first then faster, the more the gas pedal is pressed to the floor. That makes it easier to start off smoothly. More cars are made these days with “drive by wire”; no physical linkage to the throttle body – it is all done by a variable control through the computer from the gas pedal. So if the computer folks have done their programming job well, the “wireless linkage” should be progressive.

The other thing that affects smooth launch is the gear ratio in first and then second gear. Very low ratios can make the first to second shift hard to produce smoothly beuse of the large rev split from first to second, and very high frst gear ratios require “slipping” the clutch to avoid stalling the engine.

DECLUTCHING…
The left foot disengages the clutch as the right foot comes off the gas pedal. Actually, the gas pedal is released a fraction of a second before the clutch is disengaged. This slight decelerating load assists the hand in taking the gears out of mesh. The clutch stays disengaged while the hand moves the gearshift lever. On slippery roads and in skid control, declutching helps take away the disturbing forces at the rear wheels. That helps ABS control and can actually stop a spin as the car rotates so quickly when a driver gets caught out driving on ice or snow.

FUEL SHUT OFF/ON…
If you are very sensitive to the car on deceleration, you may feel a very slight surge as the car reduces speed. That may be because the fuel supply shuts off in deceleration and reopens as engine speed reduces to the idle level, to prevent stalling. Typical speed density fuel management systems smooth out the fuel shut off/on better then early mass airflow systems. Declutching a little early as you come to a stop can eliminate the surge completely.

DON’T BLIP ON THE UPSHIFT…
While up shifting, the right foot stays off the gas pedal and the clutch foot engages the clutch once the gear is properly engaged. Up shifting requires less engine speed and, for that reason, there should be no revving of the engine during the shift - unless you are a café racer or the gear ratio split is so large and the gears so heavy that the time taken to shift requires re-establishing engine speed to match nominal gear speed.

DOUBLE AXIS/SPRING BIASED SHIFTER…
The 1989 to 94 C4 Corvettes had a ZF six-speed shifter that has a double axis linkage, and the shift lever movement is curved and is spring biased to the 3-4 shift row. C5 and C6 Corvettes have a Tremec 6 speed transmission. So for the four-three downshift and the five-four downshift, relax the pressure on the shift lever, and let the lever go where it wants. If you force it you will find first instead of third in a five-four down shift. the clutch will blow up or the car will spin out into a guard rail! The same thing applies to the Tremec 56 Transmission in the C5 and C6 Corvettes. These cars have a rear mounted transmission, which has a long shift arm and a Torque tube with an internal drive shaft, which causes a lot of inertia in the drive train when shifting. What that means to most folks, is that rushing the shift is not a good thing. Take your time, get it right.

Cars with a four or five speed shifter have an “H” pattern shift, with the neutral gate in a neutral zone, with 1,2 on one side and 2,4 on the other with fifth a dog leg right forward or back depending on the car. Some early ’60’s 4 speed BMW cars had a five speed transmision with 1st a dogleg to the left and forward, with the 2,3,4,5 shift in an “H” pattern.


DOWN-SHIFTING…
To downshift, the technique is more complicated and requires timing, skill and practice. For the same constant speed, the engine revs must increase as the gearbox is shifted down from fourth to third and so on. Thus, when the gear lever pauses in neutral on the way down, the engine revs must be increased by stabbing the gas pedal with the right foot. This is called “blipping” the gas. How much the pedal must be blipped depends on the speed of the car and the ratio split between gears (close-ratio gears require less blipping), but it’s easy to understand that as speed and engine revs increase, although the ratio remains the same, the rev numbers get larger and the revs required to match engine speed to gear speed will be more.
RETURN TO THE DEAD PEDAL…
In between completed shifts, the right hand must always return to the steering wheel and the left foot must always return to the dead pedal quickly, off the clutch pedal!! In fact, there is a considerable advantage to be gained by actively pressing the left foot on the dead pedal as it helps brace your body in the seat. This takes the weight off the hands and right foot enabling better control.


DOUBLE CLUTCHING…
On some cars with large, heavy gears or with shift mechanism problems, it is necessary to double clutch. This consists of releasing the clutch pedal to engage “drive” while the gear lever is in the “neutral position”. Thus, a positive spin of the gearbox mainshaft occurs to facilitate matching of gear revs and thus selection of the nest gear. With modern gearboxes - both synchromesh and non-synchromesh - it isn’t necessary (or even desirable) to double clutch.
HEEL AND TOE…
“Heel and Toe” refers to the practice of simultaneously braking and blipping the gas with the right foot. This technique received its name from the simple movements required to perform the action when the gas pedal was located away from the brake pedal. I don’t recommend that you use this technique for everyday driving; better to leave yourself sufficient time to brake, then downshift, then brake some more.

The race driver, on the other-hand, must “heel and toe” to save time. In point of fact, the driver uses the ball and side of foot to press the pedals. To simultaneously brake and downshift, the right foot brakes using two-thirds of the ball of the foot on the brake pedal, and the rolls over to engage the gas pedal with the side of he foot while still braking.
TIPS:
• cup the lever for the 3-2 downshift then wrap the fingers around the shift knob.
• keep fingers closed and across the shift knob for the 4-5 shift.
• Wear shoes that facilitate the job – large boots or sandals don’t work.


BRIDGING THE GAP…
Most cars have the gas pedal and brake pedal in good proximity, both in terms of position and travel. But if the pedals aren’t spaced to suit your foot, it can help to bend them, or make an extension. Riveting a small piece of aluminum on to the gas pedal and the brake pedal is the procedure used by most Corvette race teams. Any modifications to the pedals of a Corvette should be considered carefully, be for racing only and performed by professional fabricators.

Now that we have covered the basics of shifting, there must be a discussion as to how…and when to shift gears.








BRAKE THEN SHIFT…
To avoid grossly over-revving the engine beyond its normal range, you first slow the car before you down shift. Make a rule: “Brake, then Shift”. Another rule: “Dropping down a gear or more is not a means of slowing the car - unless the brakes have disappeared.” Many high end sports cars have great brakes that don’t require the assistance of the gearbox and the engine braking effects to slow down. In fact, doing so can hinder accurate brake modulation and balance.


RACING TECHNIQUE…
The race driver shifts down to the appropriate gear during the approach to a corner so that he can drive through the corner at peak torque and accelerate out in peak power.

Is there a reason to shift down the gearbox sequentially? No reason at all, unless you feel like practicing your shifting or wish to impress spectators with your mastery of the gearbox. The more shifting you have to perform going down through the gears when approaching a corner, the less likely you are to miss a shift, over-rev the engine and overshoot the corner.

There are exceptions, particularly when approaching a tight hairpin from a long straight. Shifting from fourth overdrive directly to first gear might require too long a pause, which would cause the engine revs to drop significantly past the operating range of the engine. Then, when blipping the gas, the engine might fail to pick up. In this case, a 4-2-1 shift sequence would be required.

ROAD DRIVING…
The road driver, when approaching a slower corner, brakes, downshifts (once) to the appropriate gear and then negotiates the corner. The driver should not downshift sequentially, or at all when approaching a stop sign - unless they are practicing downshifting or enjoys doing it.


KEEP THE EYES UP!
When matching revs, don’t study the tachometer. The eyes must look ahead to the corner, not at the instruments or pedals, when down-shifting. The task of matching engine revs, of blipping the required amount, depends on practice and assistance from the ears and pressure on the body. If a driver doesn’t blip sufficiently, the wheels will momentarily lock when the clutch is re-engaged. Disaster! If the driver blips too much, the car will leap forward - or at least attempt to do so - which could be equally disastrous. The best method is to blip the revs up slightly in excess of the revs, required, (quick glance at the tachometer) declutch, move from gear to neutral to gear as the revs drop, and quickly release the clutch.



SHIFTING GEARS; WHY SIX SPEEDS?
Why do we need six speeds, anyway? Well the performance potential for a typical Corvette for example is more than 150 miles an hour, and Corvette for example chose to provide a gearbox that retains drive-ability and practicality as well as phenomenal top speed potential, even through the Corvette has a large displacement V-8 engine with up to 500 h.p. The 6th gear helps fuel economy with the engine loafing along at low revs at highway speeds. Many of the European exotics have high top speed potential as well, and offer customers a six-speed transmission. The future is obviously “paddle shifted” gearboxes: steering wheel mounted controls that electronically shift a manual transmission. Available on some sports cars.




CHEVY COBALT 5 SPEED GEAR LEVER
In this picture this car has a cable actuated 5 speed transmission. Reverse is a lockout type; lift up on the collar just below the shift knob to engage reverse. This is a standard “H” pattern shifter, with neutral in a neutral zone between 1/2 and 3 /4. Hand position technique for shifting the gear lever is different from a 6 speed Corvette.





BACK TO BASICS…
SMOOTHNESS AND PRECISION are the keys; and don’t forget BE GENTLE. Most mistakes involving gear changes are due to mismatching of engine-to-gear revs going down the gearbox, leaving the shifting too late, or forcing the shift lever.

A THREE-PART MOTION WITH THE RIGHT HAND-BE GENTLE…
Changing gears is a three-part motion with the right hand-out of gear you are in, into neutral. Pause. Shift into the next gear. Shifting up or down, the pause is important, and as one becomes more proficient, this pause becomes nothing more than a relaxation of pressure. Hand position is important too; cup the palm to the left when shifting from first to second. Then rotate the wrist so the palm moves the lever to the right for second to third, and down and back for third to fourth. Cup the hand to the right for the four-five shift, and with the same wrist rotation move from five to six. The thumb, three fingers and your palm are all you need for gear shift guidance. Be gentle but firm with the hand movements. And remember the advice your father always gave you: DON’T FORCE IT!




In this picture, Devon Powell pilots the Corsa Exhausts sponsored Cadiallc CTSV in 2005 at Mid Ohio in Grand American competition. 2004 was the first year Devon campaigned the formidable CTS-V, a car he built from the ground up. At Mid Ohio, Devon qualified on pole and set fast lap in the race. Note in this picture taken at the “corkscrew” how Devon is “looking across the corner to the exit”, and how the right front wheel is right on the speed bump of the turn at the apex. Race drivers generally drive to “flatten the curve”, making the corner as straight as possible.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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anyone wanna take bets when we see another " my clutch is destroyed at 5000 miles" thread...?



im kidding dude. take your time, and DONT ride the clutch, when your not shifting take your foot completely off the clutch pedal! these car4s have a hydraulic clutch and are very sensitive... good luck and hope you get the hang of it shortly!
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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screwed this up buddy tyring toget it out and posted it wrong, so now its out there...oh well good luck have fun...
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