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From: CT
Originally Posted by superSS/SC
I guarantee those cities are still the top 5 in the world, which is WHAT YOUR POINT WAS since your first post.... you said, "LA is the smog capitol of the world." It is NOT! I am not even sure if it is in the top 10 in the world, top 20 is a maybe.
Now to change subject off of me proving you rediculously wrong. They are suing California because it is POINTLESS to have all the smog laws California does.
Keep trying to back pedal and look like an idiot.
Now to change subject off of me proving you rediculously wrong. They are suing California because it is POINTLESS to have all the smog laws California does.
Keep trying to back pedal and look like an idiot.
You got that sweetheart? UNITED STATES! They are polluting our home country jack ass and you think that's OK? You keep harping on this world thing because you have no argument to back up why you think they should do away with Cali's smog laws.
You're an idiot kid, go download some **** or something. I'm done with you.
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Originally Posted by red_wing_2121
I did not say that YOU were spouting propaganda, I simply stated that you were quoting propaganda.
It is not circumstantial evidence that it is a natural rise in the Earth's climate, it is fact. The general public seems to have problems understanding this from a logical pooint of view. The public cannot comprehend that the rise in the climate is natural, they seem to have to place the blame on something (internal combustion emissions being #1 on the list).
I did not say that emissions have not accelerated this rise in temperature, because they have caused the warming of the Earth to occur faster than what would be natural. But this occurrence would happen whether there were emissions or not. Global Warming is a natural effect of a post ice age environment.
It is not circumstantial evidence that it is a natural rise in the Earth's climate, it is fact. The general public seems to have problems understanding this from a logical pooint of view. The public cannot comprehend that the rise in the climate is natural, they seem to have to place the blame on something (internal combustion emissions being #1 on the list).
I did not say that emissions have not accelerated this rise in temperature, because they have caused the warming of the Earth to occur faster than what would be natural. But this occurrence would happen whether there were emissions or not. Global Warming is a natural effect of a post ice age environment.
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
Do you hear yourself you idiot?? It is pointless to have smog laws in California but California has 7 out of the 10 smoggiest cities in the entire United States. Plus your info is over 3 years old. Nice find. Good job son.
You got that sweetheart? UNITED STATES! They are polluting our home country jack ass and you think that's OK? You keep harping on this world thing because you have no argument to back up why you think they should do away with Cali's smog laws.
You're an idiot kid, go download some **** or something. I'm done with you.
You got that sweetheart? UNITED STATES! They are polluting our home country jack ass and you think that's OK? You keep harping on this world thing because you have no argument to back up why you think they should do away with Cali's smog laws.
You're an idiot kid, go download some **** or something. I'm done with you.
You brought up the world first, not me. You got that???? Mexico City and Beijing are the smoggiest cities in the world, LA is not even close to them. You got that?
Now if your reading comprehension was above a 1st graders you would see I wrote...
Originally Posted by superss/sc
They are suing California because it is POINTLESS to have all the smog laws California does.
Now I am not saying I do away with ALL smog laws, but some laws are rediculous in Cali.
Go cont. being an ass in Conneticut.
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Yesterday, on my local news channel, I saw a news line at the bottom and it read "Earth's average surface temperature is at it's hottest in millions of years." I never heard anything else about it though. I also agree that there are many contributions to global warming; not just emissions.
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Well im for SOCAL so I should put my 2 cents in.
Why sothern california has bad air. And why air pollution is not that important.
1. The primary reason that Southern california has bad air is beacause we are in a valley and most of the pollution gets traped on our local mountain ranges.
2. Lots of people and bad freeway design
3. And the main reason we have bad air is because we have to many politicians. (JOKE ahahah):p
#1 is self explanitary
#2 Yes we have population isues the big problem is our freeways are at least 1/3 the size they should be for our current POP let alone the POP in the next 10-20 years.
So we have lots of stop and go trafic. Most speeds below 30MPH are the least eficient. Even the most fuel efficient gas cars dont do well stop go stop go... for 30 miles.
#3 Kind of funny that cailifornia cares about their air more than their petroleum supplys.
You cannot buy a diesel passenger car in CA. Wow thats smart. My friend had to smuggle his TDI golf into CA funny thing is it gets almost 50MPG and his worst tank to date is 37mpg
So our air is bad. Is that a big deal? NO!
We should be more concerned about our Oceans they are our primary air filter and temp regulator it acts like a thermostat. And plangton produces almost 75% or our breathable O2. Now im not saying that we should pollute away but CA is way out of line and I think that to many people act on emotions and not on facts.
PS sory about spelling using laptop:p
Why sothern california has bad air. And why air pollution is not that important.
1. The primary reason that Southern california has bad air is beacause we are in a valley and most of the pollution gets traped on our local mountain ranges.
2. Lots of people and bad freeway design
3. And the main reason we have bad air is because we have to many politicians. (JOKE ahahah):p
#1 is self explanitary
#2 Yes we have population isues the big problem is our freeways are at least 1/3 the size they should be for our current POP let alone the POP in the next 10-20 years.
So we have lots of stop and go trafic. Most speeds below 30MPH are the least eficient. Even the most fuel efficient gas cars dont do well stop go stop go... for 30 miles.
#3 Kind of funny that cailifornia cares about their air more than their petroleum supplys.
You cannot buy a diesel passenger car in CA. Wow thats smart. My friend had to smuggle his TDI golf into CA funny thing is it gets almost 50MPG and his worst tank to date is 37mpg
So our air is bad. Is that a big deal? NO!
We should be more concerned about our Oceans they are our primary air filter and temp regulator it acts like a thermostat. And plangton produces almost 75% or our breathable O2. Now im not saying that we should pollute away but CA is way out of line and I think that to many people act on emotions and not on facts.
PS sory about spelling using laptop:p
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OK superSSSC i'll be the man here and squash it, it's getting old. After a day it gets boring.
It was fun while it lasted though....
Plus I don't want to be responsable for this thread getting locked.
It was fun while it lasted though....
Plus I don't want to be responsable for this thread getting locked.
just take a plane into LAX and look at the smog...its kinda gross
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/GeoIma...400/lasmog.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22...rad/trip97.jpg
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DG
if those pics dont say it all...idk what will
at any rate, La has cleaned up a lot over the years...there used to be an average of a couple hundred fatalities due tothe toxins in the air waay back in the day...doesnt really happen so much these days
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/GeoIma...400/lasmog.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22...rad/trip97.jpg
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DG
if those pics dont say it all...idk what will
at any rate, La has cleaned up a lot over the years...there used to be an average of a couple hundred fatalities due tothe toxins in the air waay back in the day...doesnt really happen so much these days
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
just take a plane into LAX and look at the smog...its kinda gross
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/GeoIma...400/lasmog.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22...rad/trip97.jpg
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DG
if those pics dont say it all...idk what will
at any rate, La has cleaned up a lot over the years...there used to be an average of a couple hundred fatalities due tothe toxins in the air waay back in the day...doesnt really happen so much these days
http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/GeoIma...400/lasmog.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22...rad/trip97.jpg
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DG
if those pics dont say it all...idk what will
at any rate, La has cleaned up a lot over the years...there used to be an average of a couple hundred fatalities due tothe toxins in the air waay back in the day...doesnt really happen so much these days
Mexico City
See the difference, between LA and the smoggiest cities in the world? HUGE! Either way, auto smog laws are not going to fix LA's smog.
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