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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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Just curious, how are the cobalt ss/sc in the snow. I'm talking about with the LSD. Let me know how all of your ss perform during the winter with/without the LSD. I searched, couldn't find what i was looking for.
No LSD, 2 winters with no problems. Both in areas with alot of snowfall.
BUT... First thing I did when I bought my car was buy winter tires and rims. DO NOT drive in the snow with the stock tires. You are only endangering yourself and others.

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Also, off topic... but they still make the LSD and recaros in the 2007's right?

Thanks again
LSD -> Yes
Recaros -> No (unless you find one of the few early '07's with them)
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Suggestions for driving an SS/SC in the winter:

1. Get new snow tires.

2. Take off in 2nd gear not first.

3. Keep at low reasonable speeds.

4. If you have HPT, lower the boost in 1st and 2nd to 30-40% or just shut it off all together. There is a switch to make it where the car will not go into boost period (never tried it though).

5. Remember for those NON-LSD users, the right wheel is your best friend. Keep it on the best surface possible.

6. Get a winter beater.


My car has only seen the snow twice. Once when I first pulled it out of storage in the spring to put my shifter in and another time coming back from a meet in late October when we had freezing rain. About durfed it into the cement barrier.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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Thanks for the replies. Also, do you know if the SS/SC has heated seats in the non recaro seats?
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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its an option.
not all have it.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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So I'm going to have to be able to drive my car in snow. I'm not going to be driving much on the snow, but where I am for college once we get snow we have snow on the ground/roads for months. I'm a college kid who isn't able to "just get a winter beater".

Any suggestions for good snow tires/rims??
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitnith
So I'm going to have to be able to drive my car in snow. I'm a college kid who isn't able to "just get a winter beater".

Any suggestions for good snow tires/rims??
same goes for me , anyone have any idea how much the shittiest rims money can buy and some snow tires might cost me?
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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The pirellis suck ass in heavy rain in the summer.. I don't know why so many people expect them to be "ok" in the snow..

I got a set of steelies and winters for my 2.4 and drove reasonable to the conditions... never got stuck, never lost control. The car stopped better in the snow and slush on the winters than it stops in the rain in the summer on the pirellis.

Also, as far as I'm concerned if you live in an area that gets a fair amount of snow.. all-seasons still don't cut it.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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I'll only be driving my SS from may-september, so i'm not too worried about driving her in the winter. At least for the next 4 years of college. After that if I have to drive it in the snow I will invest in some snow tires and rims. Driving on the stock 18's is both idiotic and dangerous. Get some snows (LSD or not), and drive slow and cautiously when there is snow on the ground, and you will be just fine.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 06blackSC
Snow tires and winter rims on the SS/SC FTW!!




Yes that is the same car...i just had alot of things done in that short time.
where can I get those rims? They're 16's right?
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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ill show you

Im stuck just back out of the grage




and i have lsd.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 02:12 AM
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Get snow tires and you'll be fine
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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i dont really care i have a truck for the winter.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Whitnith
So I'm going to have to be able to drive my car in snow. I'm not going to be driving much on the snow, but where I am for college once we get snow we have snow on the ground/roads for months. I'm a college kid who isn't able to "just get a winter beater".

Any suggestions for good snow tires/rims??
My suggestion is to forget doing the tires/rims thing. Believe me, you will quickly tire of this ritual.

I know I did when I ran the tires/rims change out on my SRT-4. Yes, the car ran fine enough in the Winter with the change ...

BUT THE RIMS HAD ALL SEASON TIRES ON THEM!

I had gotten a set of snows in the deal, but I never even used them.

So my advice to everyone is that unless you live in Siberia or Alaska, just get a good set of All Season tires and be done with it. No more change outs, no more hassles.

Here is what I'm getting later this year to permanently replace my current tires:

The Tire Rack

Pirelli PZero Nero M&S
215/45ZR18 - ZR Speed Rated
$127.00

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nSpeedRating=V


It's what Chevy should have put on the SS/SC in the first place ...
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanfrank
My suggestion is to forget doing the tires/rims thing. Believe me, you will quickly tire of this ritual.

I know I did when I ran the tires/rims change out on my SRT-4. Yes, the car ran fine enough in the Winter with the change ...

BUT THE RIMS HAD ALL SEASON TIRES ON THEM!

I had gotten a set of snows in the deal, but I never even used them.

So my advice to everyone is that unless you live in Siberia or Alaska, just get a good set of All Season tires and be done with it. No more change outs, no more hassles.
You must not get a lot of snow were your from... last year the first snowfall we got was over 20 inches, and the next day, temperatures were above freezing melting some of the snow leaving everything covered in ice for a week.


Taken the morning after first snowfall of 06, and the first snowfall the balt has seen.

I wouldn't drive any car in the winter with just all seasons on it. It takes me 1 hour to change out my tires each time it's done. If you can't handle spending 2 hours out of the 8760 hours in a year to swap tires, I don't know what to say.

How long does it take you to clean your car top to bottom? How often do you do that?
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EvlPeanut
You must not get a lot of snow were your from... last year the first snowfall we got was over 20 inches, and the next day, temperatures were above freezing melting some of the snow leaving everything covered in ice for a week.

I wouldn't drive any car in the winter with just all seasons on it. It takes me 1 hour to change out my tires each time it's done. If you can't handle spending 2 hours out of the 8760 hours in a year to swap tires, I don't know what to say.

How long does it take you to clean your car top to bottom? How often do you do that?
words well spoken.

I am debating between junker. or winter tires.

Junker is a hassle. Might not start all the time, have to pay some insurance money

Costs prolly 2 grand....

But I love my car more than a god 99.9999999654% of things in my life. and a winter is rough.

btw peanut, for some reason your car looks badass on steelies.

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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 06blackSC
Snow tires and winter rims on the SS/SC FTW!!




Yes that is the same car...i just had alot of things done in that short time.
again...how can I get these rims!
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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SC is like a 4x4 in the snow

the SC is like a 4x4 in the snow, with the right tires
I run 17" Dunlop Winter Sport Max M3's (V rated snow tire) and I have never gotten stuck!!! I did go through the big snow storm here in Chicago last winter and I watched 4x4 SUV's get stuck w/ all season tires
and might I add that I have done 130 mph (on the above mentioned tire) on an empty highway racing a new 3 series BMW last winter at 5 am... he could not lose me!!! and I'm willing to bet he had a V-rated snows on as well!

OK firstly, the stock Pirelli's are summer only high performance tires.... I can't find the facts, but they should not used below something like 40 degrees (yes they will work below 40, but get hard as the compound is designed only for warm weather use).

I have done Ice Racing in the past and figured I could get home on summer tires in my Neon R/T in the first snow of the season.... dangerous and damn near impossible.. technique means nothing w/ the wrong equipment!!! I pulled over after 2 hours of struggling and had my GF pick me up in her Jeep!

All Season tires are the ultimate compromise... they don't do a great job as a performance summer tire or as a winter tire... IMO they all around suck!

If you value you your life, invest in some good snows... regular snows work fine. But, you will have no handling or braking when the snow melts and you have an open highway (plowed, no snow) at 15 degrees or -15 degrees... that is why I recommend a high performance snow... you won't get the off the line traction of a pure snow, but it is a better all around winter solution as roads do get plowed and you will only rarely need deep snow traction.

Do some research on the internet and you will see that I am 100% correct about this! Also, when going out in deep snow remove the lower grill insert as mine popped out from the snow and I ran over mine

Also, remember buying a new set of rims and tires for the snows seems expensive at first... but, you get 2X the mileage on your summer tires as they are off for 4-5 months of the year... and the snow tires should last 3-4 winters depending on the amount of driving you do! It is the best investment you can make if you love your car... and love yourself!! plus your car will stay a high performance car in the winter

trust the Canadian's and Swede's for excellent reviews on snow tires, winter driving and winter driving technique!!!

here are some articles to back me up!!!

http://www.canadiandriver.com/winter.../at_011101.htm

http://www.discountpartcenter.com/ti...mmer-tires.htm

http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...icle&sid=46201

www.nlectc.org/testing/wintertires.html
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by suburbanrobot
the SC is like a 4x4 in the snow, with the right tires
I run 17" Dunlop Winter Sport Max M3's (V rated snow tire) and I have never gotten stuck!!! I did go through the big snow storm here in Chicago last winter and I watched 4x4 SUV's get stuck w/ all season tires
and might I add that I have done 130 mph (on the above mentioned tire) on an empty highway racing a new 3 series BMW last winter at 5 am... he could not lose me!!! and I'm willing to bet he had a V-rated snows on as well!

OK firstly, the stock Pirelli's are summer only high performance tires.... I can't find the facts, but they should not used below something like 40 degrees (yes they will work below 40, but get hard as the compound is designed only for warm weather use).

I have done Ice Racing in the past and figured I could get home on summer tires in my Neon R/T in the first snow of the season.... dangerous and damn near impossible.. technique means nothing w/ the wrong equipment!!! I pulled over after 2 hours of struggling and had my GF pick me up in her Jeep!

All Season tires are the ultimate compromise... they don't do a great job as a performance summer tire or as a winter tire... IMO they all around suck!

If you value you your life, invest in some good snows... regular snows work fine. But, you will have no handling or braking when the snow melts and you have an open highway (plowed, no snow) at 15 degrees or -15 degrees... that is why I recommend a high performance snow... you won't get the off the line traction of a pure snow, but it is a better all around winter solution as roads do get plowed and you will only rarely need deep snow traction.

Do some research on the internet and you will see that I am 100% correct about this! Also, when going out in deep snow remove the lower grill insert as mine popped out from the snow and I ran over mine

Also, remember buying a new set of rims and tires for the snows seems expensive at first... but, you get 2X the mileage on your summer tires as they are off for 4-5 months of the year... and the snow tires should last 3-4 winters depending on the amount of driving you do! It is the best investment you can make if you love your car... and love yourself!! plus your car will stay a high performance car in the winter

trust the Canadian's and Swede's for excellent reviews on snow tires, winter driving and winter driving technique!!!

here are some articles to back me up!!!

http://www.canadiandriver.com/winter.../at_011101.htm

http://www.discountpartcenter.com/ti...mmer-tires.htm

http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...icle&sid=46201

www.nlectc.org/testing/wintertires.html
QFT. Nice write up.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 01:58 AM
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I tried my summer performance only tires and they suck ass in winter. Im putting on some blizzaks before i go to chicago for uti. But ill bring my summers for the track only.

My friend in his srt has blizzaks and they are amazing!!! best tire in snow that i have ever driven with.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 02:00 AM
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winter tires.. not a problem
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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omfg, this thread is two years old guys!
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tr1p1ng
omfg, this thread is two years old guys!

LOL it is. Either way, there still is snow on the ground, someones bound to be looking for the same information. On a side note, going uphill sometimes took me until 3rd gear to get moving, but i was also running on the stock 18's.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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QFT. Nice write up.
wtfffff 2 year bump
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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This post is timeless. One for the ages! lol
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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I bought good snow tires and the car is awesome in the snow... And I am from Northern Canada.
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