seadea

dogde has a rally srt but im not sure how they do, i dont follow rally racing

Keebler

^^ along with the reliability thing, there was a post and times and what not of an srt-4 hitting 9's with stock internals...

i doubt it will last very long before things start snapping though.

mchat

Really?

One Lap of America Results
1st Overall: Car #1 - Porsche 996 TT; Mark DaVia, Drew Wikstrom

2nd Overall: Car #2 - Dodge Viper; Brian Smith, John Hennessey


The Class Winners:
Mid-Priced: Car #63 Dodge SRT-4; Dale Seeley, Kolin Aspergren, Jamin Cummings

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/

philco_3

It is a Neon, it says on the information sheet "Dodge Neon SRT4". I've seen a SRT4s get beat by a WRX Sport Wagon. Try telling them that.

mchat

Uh, you need to go back and do some more research. The Stock block is designed to work in conjunction w/ the Mopar Stage III kit, which can produce 380whp on race gas. So saying that Chrysler engineers never "validated" it to 400whp is moot.

Also it's more than just "some guy got it to work a few times." It is many, many guys all around the country, including yours truly that has come close to or exceeded 400whp on the stock block. IIRC AGP Turbo alone has sold more than 100 "big turbo" kits, and while not everyone running a big turbo kit from AGP is pushing 400+whp, probably 80% or so are, and then there are the other "big turbo" upgrade vendors. All in all, across the country there's probably close to 200 SRT-4's running in excess of 400whp on the stock block. So your argument doesn't hold water.

The stock crank is good for up to about 600whp... after that we can step up to the MADI crank (built by Mopar but not sold under the Mopar name for some odd reason) which is rated for 800+whp... or should I say 800+ ft/lbs of torque (since it is torque that actually breaks things).

fire_cky

alright, how about this guys. a car is a car. i'll take them all. give me a wrx and i'll be happy. give me an st4 and i'll be happy. give me a cobalt ss and i'll be happy. if it breaks, then f**king fix it.

whatever happened to respect.

VaMP

I think that the Cobalt will own the SRT's face off once it gets some performance aftermarket support. How long has the SRT been out vs. the Cobalt?

DKGW

As would I. I still wish I hadn't wreaked my 1997 Neon. I'd love to have built it up to run another 5-10 years. It was a good and relaible car. Just like the Cobalt

JCX

Keep spreading the BS.

The fact is that guys have been running 400+WHP since shortly after the car came out. There are dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of cars in that range with no problems (other than blown clutches ) so don't tell us it's UNKNOWN. It's to the point where no one bats an eye when someone hit's 400 WHP in the SRT-4. Why? It's too damn common!

I don't mind people $hit talking the SRT-4, just make sure it's true.

JCX

Agreed 100%.

polarexpress17

<---me @ this thread

hitthecones

Do you actually know what the validation process is for powertrain? I'm guessing not, or you wouldn't have posted. Bud, for something to be validated, that means (in a very simple sense) that a 350 hp LSJ will work just like any other LSJ or other GM engine on earth. In fact, the GM validation process is more intense than what DCX does. This is evidenced by the warranty stuff coming out of DCX lately...but anyway.

The SRT-4 stuff is stout, but how robust is it? Does that 400 hp car start in -40 degree weather? Will a 400 hp beast readily start up in 120 degree heat? Does it idle smoothly all the time? Can it run a wide variety of fuels? Will it last 200,000 miles of moderate usage? Will it work with all of the other stock hardware in the car? I'm not going to go into the rest of it, but basically, the LSJ with 350 hp can, and that's pretty darn impressive.

What you guys have posted so far is that you have said that some group of people have experienced increased hp levels. That's great. Unless I'm missing something big here, DCX never went through this process. Sure a block may be "good" for 400 hp, but what does that really mean? Does that mean that it scuffs bores at 410 hp? Does that mean that the valves float at 412.2 hp? So the crank is good for 600 hp...what happens at 601 hp?

The bottom line is that it is quite likely that the LSJ can do all of this also, but it's much more to say that the manufacturer is telling you guys that the LSJ is good to 170% of its advertised horespower.


Where's the BS again? I'm just trying to add a little REAL information to this thread.

zinner

Good lord people, this better not become a regular things.