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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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i owned a focus hatchback with the 2.3 duratec engine, cosworth made stage kits(about 1k each) so with a little over 2000 dollars, it came with cams, header/exhaust, intake, manifolds, tb, tune, and maybe some other stuff, and it would get you to about 200 whp, from 143 or whatever i had. if only they had that for our 2.2 cobalts...
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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The N20 Focus was rated slower than the SS/SC even on N20.

And how does a 75 shot make it a 13 second car?

A stock SVT puts down what 145whp so with a 75 shot it wil put down maybe 210-215whp.

The FSVT isn't a lightweight by any means so hows it possible. I smell BS................
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
The N20 Focus was rated slower than the SS/SC even on N20.

And how does a 75 shot make it a 13 second car?

A stock SVT puts down what 145whp so with a 75 shot it wil put down maybe 210-215whp.

The FSVT isn't a lightweight by any means so hows it possible. I smell BS................
The 2nd gen Saleen N20 focus recorded a time of 14.0 faster than any stock ss/sc.

Do we have to explain physics??

The SVTF weighs 2700lbs at least 200 less than our Cobalts. Your nose sucks.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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if we were to take the 1500$ you would put into the focus and out it in our cars.... we would own it still
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
if we were to take the 1500$ you would put into the focus and out it in our cars.... we would own it still
Pure RICER comment. Go home!

The SVT msrp'd for a lot less than the SS/SC. Most people paid 16/17k for it, brand new. I got mine with 9k miles and over a year old for 11k.

Also our SS/SCs take a lot of cues from the SVTF.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
Pure RICER comment. Go home!

The SVT msrp'd for a lot less than the SS/SC. Most people paid 16/17k for it, brand new. I got mine with 9k miles and over a year old for 11k.

Also our SS/SCs take a lot of cues from the SVTF.
lol ricer comment..... i just went and checked the price of a brand new focus SVT and its the same as one of our cars... THATS why i said what i said....
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
lol ricer comment..... i just went and checked the price of a brand new focus SVT and its the same as one of our cars... THATS why i said what i said....
O'rly....

SVT focus, $18,830 MSRP... http://www.svt.ford.com/vehicleFocusSpecs.asp

Cobalt SS/SC, $21,465 MSRP http://www.chevrolet.com/cobalt/

A difference of $2,635 have a good day.

If it wasn't for the SVTF there would be no SS/SC.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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the SS/SC isnt cuz of the POS focus, its a direct opponent to the SRT-4
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
the SS/SC isnt cuz of the POS focus, its a direct opponent to the SRT-4






The similarity just for the interiors is uncanny, not to mention a few other similarities. And actually there are a lot of things that are better on the SVTF then the SS/SC, interior being one, transmission(not clutch thats for sure), option for HIDs, limited edition, better warranty.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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yeah, they only made a certain amount of SVT's in each color. makes you kinda feel special about owning one. also probably why they keep their value pretty well..

and i'm not 100% sure..but i thought i heard the SVT seats were just non-badged recaro's .

and how much do cobalts really weigh? i have a cobalt with no options no nothing, and my little registration paper thing says it weighs 2700
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by nomoreavril
yeah, they only made a certain amount of SVT's in each color. makes you kinda feel special about owning one. also probably why they keep their value pretty well..

and i'm not 100% sure..but i thought i heard the SVT seats were just non-badged recaro's .

and how much do cobalts really weigh? i have a cobalt with no options no nothing, and my little registration paper thing says it weighs 2700
Make no mistake, the SVT Foci's values drop like rocks just like every other domestic econobox.

I don't think they were Recaros but they were comfy with adjustable lumbar.

The SS/SC are over 2900lbs, so im sure your car is 2700 or so.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
O'rly....

SVT focus, $18,830 MSRP... http://www.svt.ford.com/vehicleFocusSpecs.asp

Cobalt SS/SC, $21,465 MSRP http://www.chevrolet.com/cobalt/

A difference of $2,635 have a good day.

If it wasn't for the SVTF there would be no SS/SC.
with similar options, the svtf and 2.0 are about the same price. I bought an '03 svtf brand new. It had leather, moonroof, premium sound, HID's. The MSRP was $21,860. My 2.0 brand new with leather, moonroof, premium sound, OnStar, came to $21,430.
The SS was a little cheaper, but with more power. The svtf was lightweight (I pushed it up a hill when it broke down, so I know) and had an awesome exhaust system stock, but it was a POS.
And your comment that there would be no 2.0 without the svtf. What about the SRT-4? Do you think that car probably had more influence?
I do agree that the svtf had many "little things" about it that was cooler than the cobalt. I like the electroluminescent gages, oil temp gage, stereo is better, the wheels are nicer, the HID's rock, and the stock exhaust header dominates! I also loved the dual intake manifolds; when the longer intake switched to the smaller one at 5500 rpm, it had a VTEC feel.
Bad things: it's a hatchback. After a while away from it, I look at them now and realize how dorky I must have looked driving one. Horrid reliability. I only had the car to 22k miles, and it broke hard six times. The first two gears suck and that is one of the biggest reason for it being so slow.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by phxSS
with similar options, the svtf and 2.0 are about the same price. I bought an '03 svtf brand new. It had leather, moonroof, premium sound, HID's. The MSRP was $21,860. My 2.0 brand new with leather, moonroof, premium sound, OnStar, came to $21,430.
The SS was a little cheaper, but with more power. The svtf was lightweight (I pushed it up a hill when it broke down, so I know) and had an awesome exhaust system stock, but it was a POS.
And your comment that there would be no 2.0 without the svtf. What about the SRT-4? Do you think that car probably had more influence?
I do agree that the svtf had many "little things" about it that was cooler than the cobalt. I like the electroluminescent gages, oil temp gage, stereo is better, the wheels are nicer, the HID's rock, and the stock exhaust header dominates! I also loved the dual intake manifolds; when the longer intake switched to the smaller one at 5500 rpm, it had a VTEC feel.
Bad things: it's a hatchback. After a while away from it, I look at them now and realize how dorky I must have looked driving one. Horrid reliability. I only had the car to 22k miles, and it broke hard six times. The first two gears suck and that is one of the biggest reason for it being so slow.
I had an SVTF too. They all had leather. They also had VTC... variable timing control.

Do you think the SVT had any influence on the SRT-4? So to answer your question... No, I think the SVT had more influence than the SRT on our cars.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
I don't think they were Recaros but they were comfy with adjustable lumbar.
Recaros were an option....they came in the Euro Package

And the standard SVT seats were black leather with the choice of Red or Blue cloth inserts.
The blue insert seats look a little similar to the Redline Recaro seats though....sort of the same insert material.
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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Turbo Conversion

Either way with F/I installed alone can contend with SS/SC

I won't be the first to say the SVT Focus hauls ass with Turbo conversion kit. I got spanked by one from a roll, 1 car less from a dig.
Since you're from SE Michigan.....I only know of one guy around here that had a Turbo SVT.....you talking about Jeff???
He's got a Red SVT ZX3
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
It doesn't need a 5k supercharger to compete with us.
Well you're right

But I wasn't thinking of Nitrous.....I was thinking motor.....like the blower kits that are available for the car
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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hey

i like the saleen n20 focus i was going to get one because i use to be a ford fan but they look really nice and there not much u can do to them like looks wise but so much to the engine they are sweet! but we are faster then them even with the nitrous (but if u buy it and fill the nitrous tank ur warranty is gone and u cant fool them with it because they know)
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by snobrdrdan
Recaros were an option....they came in the Euro Package

And the standard SVT seats were black leather with the choice of Red or Blue cloth inserts.
The blue insert seats look a little similar to the Redline Recaro seats though....sort of the same insert material.
Are you correcting me or just adding?
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 06CobaltssOrange
i like the saleen n20 focus i was going to get one because i use to be a ford fan but they look really nice and there not much u can do to them like looks wise but so much to the engine they are sweet! but we are faster then them even with the nitrous (but if u buy it and fill the nitrous tank ur warranty is gone and u cant fool them with it because they know)
The 1st gen n2o focus is slower than us, but the 2nd gen is faster.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 03:17 AM
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A ford focus?.... lol.....


rofl


lol


lol

buhahahahahaha

if its turbo'd or supercharged does that make it "Out of Focus"? Im curious.... does it?
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Orlandoech
A ford focus?.... lol.....


rofl


lol


lol

buhahahahahaha

if its turbo'd or supercharged does that make it "Out of Focus"? Im curious.... does it?
Ha Ha Ha My old 2000 ZX3 hade a front plate that said "BLUR" no one ever got what it meant. Get it Focus, Blur Ahh nevermind. I give up. True story though.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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Ha Ha Ha My old 2000 ZX3 hade a front plate that said "BLUR" no one ever got what it meant. Get it Focus, Blur Ahh nevermind. I give up. True story though.
Then you hafta follow your story with..And then I found 10 bucks..
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by snobrdrdan
Since you're from SE Michigan.....I only know of one guy around here that had a Turbo SVT.....you talking about Jeff???
He's got a Red SVT ZX3
The one I raced had a center mount exhaust, it was black and the windows tinted dark as hell, he also had HID's, Sequential BOV, very quiet car until WOT.. He was using BF tires..I was screwing around with him on Woodward last year when I first got the car.

-Mike
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