but most people refuse to drive sticks anymore because god forbit they cant talkon there phones and drink coffee at the same time...

 

lol

i was referring to all the hills, but ya, thats prob why majority of people drive automatics

 

oh.... lol oops. well in flat alberta most peeple are jsut lazy...

 

Amen.

The basic lines of the G6 coupe are pure sex but they've cluttered them too much with the GXP. Yes, I agree 100% that the interior blows our cars away... but still no MP3 capability? This is 2008 for pete's sake.

 

the g6 was designed and made without the intention of a "performance market" in mind. i mean lots of the things they put on it was to please the people who were bitching about not enough power and to basically stack up to some of the competition. bottom line: wait for the next g6 and then we will see some progress (i hope to god that pontiac gets the vauxhall Vectra VXR as the replacement rather than saturn) go youtube it and it gets bashed for handleing on topgear, but aparently i did some more research on that and turns out the fuses for the stability control were taken out for some reason.

back on topic though....

the g5 wasnt intended like stated above to be a pontiac to begin with. but seeing how GM wanted to make dealers happy its no surprise they made it. they should have made a supercharged version of it right off the bat with a more performance oriented mind to begin with. lots of people dont go to pontiac nowadays because there are no perfomance machines to offer. and even now there is, ALL cars from pontiac need a performance model thats serious and not some "badge job"

 

I have asked the GM engineers this question earlier this month when I drove the Turbo SS. They specifically said this engine will not be shared with Pontiac’s G5’s.

 

Those same people can't even drive properly when the car is doing the shifting for them. How could you **** up pushing one pedal to go, one pedal to slow down?..... People being fricken retarded that's how. I hate when people are texting and talking on their phone while driving. It takes their mind away from the road and puts other people at risk. Manual transmission is definitely awesome.

Now on topic I don't think it'll happen because of lack of demand of G5 in general(I've only seen 1 or 2 in m area while I see a **** load of cobalts). Plus the post above me also says why.

 

o ok, that pretty much answers my question. o well

 

I understand manuals are not practical in a lot of places with/hills traffic, but the option still needs to be available. Accord coupe has a 6MT option. Altima coupe has a 6MT option. Yes the majority of buyers for those cars will still go for the automatic, but the option is still available.

Sales of G5's in Canada, where they've been on the market since slightly before the Cobalt, are high. In '07, something like 32,000 Cobalts and 25,000 G5's. So the Canadian market alone could possibly justify it, but it still won't happen.

 

The G5's future in the US is grim ( not sure about Canada) . 2009 is its final hoorah and theres not plans for a pontiac version on the new chassis . That isnt a bad thing though , Pontiacs new small 4-door car is based on the Alpha rwd platform . Pontiac is gonna be more of a niche brand when their transformation is complete rather than a full line brand like chevy .

 

Notice that I said that I hardly see them around here.

 

i think pontiac is making the best gm cars right now. The G8 is awesome, the solstice is hot, i like the g6 esp the coupe, gxp, and hardtop conv. They should build the G5 on the solstice chassis so its RWD and put in the LNF. It would be a sweet coupe or sedan with a trunk. Which is the only prob with the solstice or I would have one

 

i wouldn't say pontiac is making the best gm cars right now. i think they are just going in a different direction than chevy and saturn. chevy is obviously sports car oriented with the zr1 corvette, concept camaro and ss/tc cobalt. saturn gives you a little taste of performance w/ the sky but is concentrating on fuel economy and family vehicles. pontiac has a roadster (solstice), a super grocery getter (g8), and a bunch of cars that don't seem to stick out. i personally like some features of the g5 (wheels, grilles), but for the most part pontiac has been slacking IMO. before i would buy a g6 gxp i would surely opt for a new malibu ltz, or impala ss.

personally i think its the GM big shots forcing pontiac to dumb down their lineup to not clash with chevy's performance cars, simple but comfortable vehilces for saturn, high-end sophisticated look is left to cadillac, classy yet modern is assigned to buick, euro-ish styling is controlled by saab. pontiac is left without a personality which is srprising since pontiac has always been side by side with chevy throughout the years.

 

true but who the hell would buy an impala over a g8? don't forget we're gonna see solstice coupe in gxp form. But yes, GM has never let any brand compete with the corvette.

 

id like to see gm ditch pontiac and bring back Oldsmobile in its place

 

i could be wrong... but wasnt GXP (GTX) always better than the GTP.. i had a grand prix GTP that i know along with every other GP GTP owner went out and had an equal setup like a stage one for the SS SC which then lead it to be called a grand prix GXP (GTX)??? so where the conclusion of GXP (GTX) is a wanna be GTP i think is a lil backwards?

 

they dumped the GTP name and went with GXP, kinda like how Chevy is dumping the SS badging on all their "Super shitty" cars

then pontiac let their name down with the G6 GXP

 

i dont see the point of buying a 4 door sedan with over 300 hp. dont get me wrong , i like the g8 idea but if you want sports car performance then get a sports car. i wouldn't buy a 6 seater if i was into speeding around town. it nice to have some accelleration and power in a sedan but you need to draw the line somewhere.

 

so then what is the GTX's equivelant?

 

they have been making 4 doro sports cars for years. the amount of doors you have should not make it a sports car or not

never heard of GTX

 

it would be like the stage one or 2 of the SS SC.... maybe pontiac has just failed at the after market performance... but i would love to see something out of pontiac

also GTX GP's are a great mid to low 13's without any other add ons

 

i see ur pic up there..looks to me its like a "special edition" like they did the SLP camaro and "fire chicken" trans am

 

except that they werent made that way.. you had to buy if i can remember the slp intake.. exhaust.. and some pulleys?... and for it to be cosidered 100% GTX.. the hood 3 piece ducktail wing and some new interior and exterior dress up

 

There were no pulleys . Hood , badges, floormats , quad outlet exhaust tips . A cat back , spoiler and 17" wheels were optional . You could get the SLP GTX package on a GT or GTP . They were nice , but it was not really a performance package , it was more of an appearence package .

 

[QUOTE=Projekt;2139383]they have been making 4 doro sports cars for years. the amount of doors you have should not make it a sports car or not

why not? the impala ss is a slighty faster model of an existing car making it possible to have an impala that serves its purpose. the g8 is its own entity that can only be refered to as a sports car sedan. i just can't figure out why you would need all that power in a full-sized 4 door sedan. similiar to the trailblazer ss, i think its a goodlooking fast vehicle but serves no purpose what so ever. people buy suv's for the space but complain about the mpg. the trailblazer ss is smaller in size than its base model and probably has the worst gas milage out of all the suv's and trucks on the market. so IMO the g8 and the trailblazer ss are both cool but are un-necessary to todays economic needs.