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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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Doing some research on engines and are the ecotec considered direct injection since its not multiport since it doesnt inject in the intake manifold. or would it be considered cylinder port injection, and if so what is the difference? wikipedia claims that gm used it in an opel in 04 and the gxp engine.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:07 AM
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Only the 2.0 VVT Turbo (LNF) is direct injected. That means that it sprays right into the combustion chamber rather than into the air intake track / spraying towards the valves.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:08 AM
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IDK for sure, but I am pretty sure it is called multi-port fuel injection.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:09 AM
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It's considered Multi Port Fuel Injection for the rest of the ECOTECs.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:10 AM
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but from what I was looking at mpfi injects into the intake manifold and the ecotec injectors are actually into the head thats why i was wondering if they were considered direct injection
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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but from what I was looking at mpfi injects into the intake manifold and the ecotec injectors are actually into the head thats why i was wondering if they were considered direct injection
Nope, only on the saturn sky turbo, and pontiac solstice gxp

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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:17 AM
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but from what I was looking at mpfi injects into the intake manifold and the ecotec injectors are actually into the head thats why i was wondering if they were considered direct injection
No, they are placed somehow along with the intake manifold and they point at the top of the valves (just upstream).
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:54 AM
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so the fuel actually goes through the intake valves and thats the difference?
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:56 AM
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so the fuel actually goes through the intake valves and thats the difference?
Even on DPI the fuel goes through the intake valve. The injector sits behind the valve and sprays when your valve is open. I don't think they sit in the combustion chamber, but I could be wrong
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:06 AM
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Even on DPI the fuel goes through the intake valve. The injector sits behind the valve and sprays when your valve is open. I don't think they sit in the combustion chamber, but I could be wrong
Actually it is placed in the combustion chamber

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Many diesel engines feature direct injection (DI). The injection nozzle is placed inside the combustion chamber and the piston incorporates a depression (often toroidal) where initial combustion takes place. Direct injection diesel engines are generally more efficient and cleaner than indirect injection engines. See also High-pressure Direct Injection (HDi)
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:14 AM
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I was reading the wiki article in the first place
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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I was reading the wiki article in the first place
Yeah, sorry man, I guess it is in the combustion chamber. I guess it is more efficent that way. NJHK knows his ****, so you can trust him.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:57 AM
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Yeah, sorry man, I guess it is in the combustion chamber. I guess it is more efficent that way. NJHK knows his ****, so you can trust him.
Thanks

Yeah, I first started reading about it when the LNF came out.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:59 AM
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on the eco it sprays right before the intake valves?
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kyyankee
on the eco it sprays right before the intake valves?
On all the other ECOTECs, yes. They point right at the top of the intake valves so when they are operational, while the valve pushes open, the fuel can spray towards the combustion chamber.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:08 AM
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alright they didnt have any images of placement so i was confused
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kyyankee
alright they didnt have any images of placement so i was confused
It's alright.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:38 AM
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i like animations on how different things work
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kyyankee
i like animations on how different things work
So do I. Go on ecotec forum and there is a diagram on the LNF engine, fuel injection and turbo setup. That should help you out some.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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where at on there? or pm me the link on there same user name
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kyyankee
where at on there? or pm me the link on there same user name
damn you're lazy lol

http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1083
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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that and i cant search worth a damn for anything
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:00 AM
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that and i cant search worth a damn for anything
Bla...it was simple. 2.0 Turbo section, general forum...it was a damn sticky thread! lol
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:02 AM
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sticky schmicky
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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sticky schmicky
lol

Did it atleast help?
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