Yep, I don't own a Cobalt. I really just own a 2002 Camaro SS and a 1993 Cavalier Z24.

And I have only taken those two cars to the track not my SS/SC yet due to the fact that you have to drive on a little gravel to get there. But after having everything from a 3.1 to a LS1 I know how fast cars are. The only reason I am so hung up on the SRT-4 vs SS/SC posts is the fact that SRT-4 guys act like it isn't close. Sorry but it is and when the better driver is in the SS good bye.

I guess I am used to driving cars where there is mutual respect and people don't magazine race.


And just a note:
My 1993 Cavalier Z24 with 189,000 miles with no cat, K&N, Dynomax muffler and funtional hood ran a best time of 15.98 @ 88mph. I race this car more than my others Civics to Mustangs.

 

There is no point in arguing with cody his knowledge is just amazing and his SS/SC is faster then srt-4s its a proven fact.

 

Hey i cant stand him sometimes but if you think an Neon SRT-4 beats A Chevy Cobalt SS S/C every time your out fo your mind....

the times are so close when they are peaked out... and most people cant hit those numbers on the track or not.

They are very close cars

 

I'm figuring that out. Maybe eventually he'll even show a timeslip sometime!

Probably not, wouldn't want to spoil his own fun.

 

it's not as close as you think. i have a 2003 srt-4 (which means no lsd), and i ran a 13.8@101 stock (on street tires), and i am not the only one that gets these numbers out of the car. srt-4's and ss's both seem to suffer from not being able to put power to the ground. the srt aftermarket has helped us out with that, i'm sure they'll have plenty of stuff for you guys soon enough as well.

fyi - a ss showed up at one of the car meets about two weeks ago. he ran against a stock 05 srt-4. he lost by about 4 cars.

don't get me wrong, i like the ss. i think it's a great car and i love that chevy brought it to the market. i think it's going to be a beast on the streets when the aftermarket catches up and starts putting out some parts for you guys. i can't wait to see some nicely modded ss's on the street and track that i can play with. the car has a lot of potential, and i'm looking forward to seeing what happens over the next year or so with it. it's great to have another american car in the sport compact market, and i don't think that cobalt and srt-4 owners should be fighting. we need to help each other out and get the most out of each of our cars. i joined this forum to see what this car is all about, there are a few running around my area now, and i wanted to learn more about them.

i hope to see some of you at street wars or other events this season. we'll line up!

 

Wow another SRT-4 guy bashing me what's new?

When is anyone going to finally get it? Don't hate me just because I stand up for my SS/SC. I have been around to many different cars to let someone try to tell me how fast a SRT-4 is.

13.8 in a 100% stock SRT-4 is just barely beliveable but it could happen. But that is as good as it will get kids. If the Cobalt SS can manage a 14.4 a 13.9 wouldn't be hard to get at all.

 

Actually it's rather common. The fastest I've ever seen bone stock on an SRT-4 is 13.6. That's quite rare. 13.8 and 13.9 is rather common. Again, not looking for a fight, but I'm telling it like it is. No fantasy. No made up bs. No street encounters. No e-thuggin. Just the facts man.

I like to let reality be my guide. People don't hate you becase you stand up for the Cobalt. The fact that you are unwilling to prove anything you say is somewhat annoying though. I can put "showing one Z06 at a time that the SRT-4 is faster" in my sig, it doesn't make it true.

P.S. If PSI Chick is the same one I recognize from the other forums, she's pretty quick.

P.P.S. Us SRT-4 owners are not here to cause trouble. We're here because we like the car.

 

My sig is quite blunt but someone needs to keep SRT-4 owners ego's in check. You have no idea how many of these cars owners have talked **** to me in my Camaro.

The SS/SC and SRT-4 is pretty much a drivers race. Alot of SS/SC drivers are used to J-Bodies and not driving/Racing there Cobalt. A SS/SC will easily match numbers produced by SRT-4's.

As for SRT-4's running better than 13.8 fully stock, No. Just plain knowledge of cars will prove that almost impossible. They don't have the power, gearing or traction to do that. Period......

 

Just a note--what V6 Mustangs can you beat? The new V6 with the 5 speed auto has been clocked at 0-60mph in 7.0 flat. You could beat the 94-98 ones with the 145hp 3.8L but thats about it.

 

Yep. I made that whole list based on performance, other factors not considered.


Let me be the first to call bullshit. There's no way a stock SRT-4 ran a 13.6 1/4 mile. Its just not possible considering its trap speed. Few drivers will hit 13.8 or 13.9 with a stock SRT-4 either, you make it sound like its easy. An average driver will hit a low 14, it takes a lot of experience with the car to get into the high 13's.

As for the SS S/C, most drivers will hit a high 14 in the 1/4. An experienced driver will hit low-mid 14's, depending on conditions. So overall the SS S/C is about a 1/2 second slower through the 1/4 mile than the SRT-4 - but that advantage is easily cancelled out when you factor in driver skill.

I haven't seen him say anything that he can't prove. He's just saying that the whole SRT-4 vs Cobalt SS S/C comparo gets totally blown out of proportion by the SRT-4 guys. You SRT-4 fanboys like to think you're cars are so much faster than the SS, when in reality they only have a small advantage. Cody is just trying to keep it real, but you other guys (JCX, xautobotx) just blow everything out of proportion trying to defend the SRT-4

 

Exactly!!! Does anyone like this guy? LOL! He thinks it's just the SRT-4 owners that pick on him, but in reality it's everyone that reads his posts including fellow SS owners. Also it's almost comical now how everything he accuses the "SRT-4 owners" of doing, he actually does himself. Like I've said before codyss, if you really want to stand up for your car, show us timeslips, videos, something! All us SRT-4 owners will give you props when you show us how much faster your car is; especially these "high speed runs" like you've said before.

 

the eclipse 0-60 5.8 1/4 mile 14.3 (i think)
cobalt ss 0-60 6.1 1/4 mile 14.7
it would be close, but it wouldnt get destroyed

 

Thoes numbers don't seem right for the 06 eclipse. It's a heavy car and definately wont do 0-60 in 5.8.

Thoes werent the numbers I found, I could be wrong though.

 

Those numbers are accurate, but probably a little optomistic

Here's the numbers from Car & Driver, they tested a 6-speed GT V6 model. They seem pretty accurate factoring in the 3560 lb curb weight and a rating of 263HP.

0-60: 6.1
1/4 Mile: 14.5 @ 100
Top Speed: 134 MPH

Those numbers aren't very impressive considering the almost $30K price tag
The Cobalt SS S/C would give it a very close run, it would probably be a drivers race.

So all you peeps saying the new Eclipse would "smoke" the SS, not even close guys

 

Magazines have got 13's stock. I've seen plenty of guys on the board hit 13's stock. I know guys who hit 13 stock their first time at the track. If you want to look through the SRTforums database please feel free. You are quite simply wrong. You might also want to do some research on drag racing trap speeds. 102 MPH is MORE THAN ENOUGH speed to go mid 13's.

http://www.**************/forums/timeslips.php

I looked over your board here and I'm not seeing much (if any) in the way of mid 14's stock (let alone high 14's). Please point me in the direction of some stock mid 14 Cobalts, I'd like to see them. What you are failing to realize is I really hope to see them going that fast, but I can't seem to find evidence.

Are you serious? Has he proved anything? If so, where? I am absoultely not blowing anything out of proportion. I like the Cobalt SS. All I'm asking is that the Cobalt SS owners (particularly Cody) to show some evidence that he beats up SRT-4's. That's all. How many times do you want me to say it? I'm interested in reality. Reality has shown me that the SS gets beat up by stock SRT-4s. No shame. Just facts. Not interested in cute message board sig's that make claims their owners can't prove.

I'm not a fanboy, I like most performance cars and I came hear to learn what I can about the Cobalt. That said, I'll ask all big talkers for proof.

 

lol enough with the Cobalt SS v. SRT4 already, it's been done 10000000x

 

Toyota Celica GTS
The hell you smokin? SS > Celica. The thing dynos 100 tq stock
Scion Tc/SC I hear that it can barley get a 15.2, and i doubt the suspension has changed.
Scooby- Drivers race.
RSX- Dynos 170 hp, but is 100 lbs less. Could corner just as good as an ss if it had better tires....
Saturn Redline-Gee how can you compete with the same thing?

 

hes just a import hater. Ignore him

 

I could care less where a car came from, I hate ricers and magazine racers.

A Cobalt SS is not a half second slower than a SRT-4. Both of the damn cars will run anywhere between 13.9-15.1 stock. Who cares what a car runs at the track does that matter on the street?

 

stock 04's and 05's do 13.7-13.9 on a regular basis. just because car and driver couldn't do it with their grandmother driving doesn't mean that it can't happen. and it doesn't take a great driver to pull a high 13's on the newer srt's, all it takes is some practice. i got my 13.8 on my second time out at the track. and that's second time ever, not just second time with this car. i've seen plenty of 04's do high 13's with average drivers. i have not seen a 13.6 stock, but i have seen plenty of 13.7's.

.5s is about 5 cars, i would say that's a pretty big difference.

of course we're trying to defend our cars. you're talking about a high 14s car that claims it to be a driver's race. we get the same thing from the wrx guys. the only time i ever ran a high 14s stock was when i missed a shift. i never once ran a 15. even my horrible runs with 2.4 60's were still netting me 14.2-14.4. once i figured out how to launch and got my 60' down to 2.1's or so i was doing high 13's. so you want to tell us that a car that runs high 14's on average is going to beat me. yea, i'm going to tell you you're wrong.

now i will be the first to say that a majority of the srt owners out there can't drive their cars. they are often young and inexperienced and don't know how to handle a car that actually has torque. so if you find one of those, sure i can see an ss beating it. but if you have someone behind the wheel that actually has a clue, then there's no reason that a ss should win. i'm not trying to be rude about it, that's just the reality of it.

just to compare, i'm going to try to see if i can get a test drive in an ss and see what the power difference is. i have to find a stock srt to drive first to make it a good comparison, because comparing it to my car just isn't going to work. hum...time to make a trip to chevy this week. you think they'll be mad if i drive up in my srt??

 

This post puts the fan in fanboi. Basically every shred of real life performance data points to the SRT-4 being at least 1/2 second faster. You sincerely are so far out to lunch I think you're at dinner. You guys call me a fanboy, but I can at least admit to the fact that there are cars faster than the SRT-4.

Who cares what cars run on the track? Just anyone who feels it's important to have some level of credibility when making claims. Stick to the street where you don't have to prove any of your claims.

BTW, I beat a McLaren F1 from a 100 MPH punch on the highway yesterday.

 

The thing is, we don't know how to launch yet I think we will see much better times with the SS once we get it down. Every car is different, getting a FWD car off the line without LSD is no easy task.

I'm really tired of hearing this bickering though. A car is only a machine, and a machine can do nothing without a person to tell it how to perform.

 

this thread rocks....im here for the gang bang.

im off to the srtforums to see if i can find anyone in nebraska to race codySS.. we will get it on video, then i bet he shuts up........

 

Marc, trust me on this, the LSD will be a help on the road / autoX course rather than the drag strip. 2003 SRT-4s had no LSD and they launch the same as the 2004+ models. You really feel it work around corners.

I agree about the bickering, it's no fun. Again, I came here to learn not to bicker. We'd be better off to get along, but reality is a hard grasp for some.

 

I didn't know the 04's didn't have LSD, glad you told me that

lol, yeah. I don't care what car is faster than mine. I bought my Cobalt because it's fun to drive.

Sure, every once and a while I'll see a WRX or Boosted Civic and wonder if I could take em but my ego isn't based on being convinced my car is the fastest ever.

When I first got my SS I was convinced I was going to build it up to 300+ hp but you'll just end up with a car that's a pain to maintain. I just want a speedy daily driver.

Can't we all just get along?