Grand Prix GTP vs. SS/SC
07-15-2007, 05:45 PM
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The fastest GP runs a 14.5 stock. And thats the 04 and up.
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07-15-2007, 05:57 PM
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jeez where to start...
well considering stock (no dont look up the magazine times) they run mid 14s...
They top out at 127mph
Fastest Stock GTP time is a 14.0... Freak.. yes.. still stock.
280ft/lbs stock
i thought you had a grand prix??? They are not expensive to mod..
you can run high 12's ALL day with $1500.
Full size intercooler
Ported manifolds/Headers
3.0" pulley
1.9:1 rockers
DHP (or a custom tune)
DR's
stock axles are very strong.
And that includes "installs" and ****..
now if you are like me, and have a dremel....
you can port your own TB to 72mm, port the blower fully, port the lower intake manifold, port the heads... get a custom tune for the MAF then, and it will still be $1500.
mid 12s... the only weak part is the trans. Get that built for $1900 (heh heh) and you will be set... getting over 20mpg city, and about 34mpg highway.
I have had 2 grand prix's... i would know.
They top out at 127mph
Fastest Stock GTP time is a 14.0... Freak.. yes.. still stock.
gtp's are cool if you have a **** load of money , cause thats what its gonna take to get going anywhere , the transmission sucks , and will not handle a 12 second daily driver , its not intercooled , i mean i guess you could go with a cam some cheap headers , heads with intake a 3.0 pulley custom tune throttle body 42 lb injectors short stack intercooler and a built tranny , but all that is like 7-9,000 all said and done which is ridiculously expensive
i thought you had a grand prix??? They are not expensive to mod..
you can run high 12's ALL day with $1500.
Full size intercooler
Ported manifolds/Headers
3.0" pulley
1.9:1 rockers
DHP (or a custom tune)
DR's
stock axles are very strong.
And that includes "installs" and ****..
now if you are like me, and have a dremel....
you can port your own TB to 72mm, port the blower fully, port the lower intake manifold, port the heads... get a custom tune for the MAF then, and it will still be $1500.
mid 12s... the only weak part is the trans. Get that built for $1900 (heh heh) and you will be set... getting over 20mpg city, and about 34mpg highway.
I have had 2 grand prix's... i would know.
07-15-2007, 06:01 PM
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07-15-2007, 06:19 PM
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mine made it to 105k 
put in a built trans... hooked me up for 1900... chirped the 1-2 upshift, and downshifts were damn near instant.
Here in all 4 videos you can hear my tires chirping the upshift...
that is with a 245/45/17 too
my buddies automatic SHO... mine was MUCH faster.. heh
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/100_0251.mpg
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/100_0263.mpg
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/100_0265.mpg
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/100_0267.mpg
put in a built trans... hooked me up for 1900... chirped the 1-2 upshift, and downshifts were damn near instant.
Here in all 4 videos you can hear my tires chirping the upshift...
that is with a 245/45/17 too
my buddies automatic SHO... mine was MUCH faster.. heh
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/100_0251.mpg
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/100_0263.mpg
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/100_0265.mpg
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/100_0267.mpg
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07-15-2007, 06:26 PM
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07-15-2007, 06:38 PM
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I know Ill take him. Ive never seen a GTP run faster than a high 14 sec 1/4 mile, at least around here. Out at Quaker the fastest GTP I saw was a mid to high 12 and that was heavily modded.
07-15-2007, 10:44 PM
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mid 12s is not heavily modded.
THESE are heavily modded.
all 3 are still the GM 3800 Series II engine..
All are FWD...
the FASTEST one of those 3 has a STOCK shortblock... (pistons/rods/crank) He has a big cam though, obviously.
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/TTGT901.mpg <--fastest FWD grand prix.. stock block. ZZP + stattama
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/INTENSE964.MPG <---currently runs 9.2.... dont have that vid INTENSE
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/ZZP9SGTP.wmv zoomers personal car. ZZP
THESE are heavily modded.
all 3 are still the GM 3800 Series II engine..
All are FWD...
the FASTEST one of those 3 has a STOCK shortblock... (pistons/rods/crank) He has a big cam though, obviously.
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/TTGT901.mpg <--fastest FWD grand prix.. stock block. ZZP + stattama
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/INTENSE964.MPG <---currently runs 9.2.... dont have that vid INTENSE
http://1997gtp.net/Videos/ZZP9SGTP.wmv zoomers personal car. ZZP
07-15-2007, 10:58 PM
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the car he's talking about IS heavily modded. ive seen it too.
dont race him on 224, at least take it on 680 from a roll, or if you need to go from a dig go on division st behind vm star. or even salt springs down by the toys r us warehouse.
im not one of these **** on here who will tell you not to street race. if it "comes up", id probably race anywhere. but if youve got it planned out, at least pick a decent stretch of road.
dont race him on 224, at least take it on 680 from a roll, or if you need to go from a dig go on division st behind vm star. or even salt springs down by the toys r us warehouse.
im not one of these **** on here who will tell you not to street race. if it "comes up", id probably race anywhere. but if youve got it planned out, at least pick a decent stretch of road.
07-15-2007, 11:27 PM
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mid 12s IS NOT heavily modded for a Grand Prix.
Granted times doesnt show how many mods are on the car... ASSUMING the car is running at its best.. mid 12s IS NOT HEAVILY MODDED. That is like $1500-2000 max
Granted times doesnt show how many mods are on the car... ASSUMING the car is running at its best.. mid 12s IS NOT HEAVILY MODDED. That is like $1500-2000 max
07-16-2007, 01:23 AM
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i did have a gtp thats how i know you cant run 12's for 1500 , a full size intercooler for the gtp is 1,000 and that isnt including fuel rails or injectors, you need injectors to run a 3.0 ,your also the same guy that was running 13.6 in a gtp and then you put like a cam on it and were running 13.8's , you also said **** the gtp , your advice or "experience" is a joke
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07-16-2007, 02:03 AM
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and why are you dumb??? bc u sold ur comp G?
no no no no no that would make me wise! I am dumb because I made a post in the wrong thread
I am so damn smart!Mike
you also said **** the gtp , your advice or "experience" is a joke
Syp has plenty of experience with GTP's and I think he knows what it takes to run 12's in one. Just because he may have said **** gtp's does not mean he doesnt know anything about them.
**** cobalts!! Oooooooo no I now have no experience and should not give advice about cobalts becuase I said **** cobalts. Ooooooooooo nooooooo..
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07-16-2007, 02:32 AM
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no no no no no that would make me wise! I am dumb because I made a post in the wrong thread I am so damn smart!
Mike
Syp has plenty of experience with GTP's and I think he knows what it takes to run 12's in one. Just because he may have said **** gtp's does not mean he doesnt know anything about them.
**** cobalts!! Oooooooo no I now have no experience and should not give advice about cobalts becuase I said **** cobalts. Ooooooooooo nooooooo..
I am so damn smart!Mike
Syp has plenty of experience with GTP's and I think he knows what it takes to run 12's in one. Just because he may have said **** gtp's does not mean he doesnt know anything about them.
**** cobalts!! Oooooooo no I now have no experience and should not give advice about cobalts becuase I said **** cobalts. Ooooooooooo nooooooo..