jojo91684

yep thats right streets starting flooding and my engine ingested water and locked my engine up. $4200 for the remove and replace and all the work on my engine. should i get a short CAI instead of the long one i have since these streets are flooding?

3de3gre33dk3

That sucks. I would just not drive when things are flooded. U doing repair through insurance?

jojo91684

yeah well i had to get to work. and didnt realize the streets were starting to flood but as soon as i passed over a bridge water was rising and there was nothing i could do but to drive through it. but now i know not to let my foot of the gas when going through water like that. yeah the field agent is suppose to go to the shop and get an estimate on how much it will cost and say yes or no.

2FaSSt4U

SS/SC don't have short intake

jojo91684

oh well damn!! i guess no driving while the streets have standing water

Mr.N00bLaR

iTrader: (7)

Could try to do something custom like this:

(thank you for the pic ZZP)

Staged07SS

iTrader: (25)

A short ram intake on a SS/SC would be retarded. One of the major reasons the SS/SC has a cold air intake from the factory is to keep the charge air temps at bay. A short ram (especially like the ZZP setup for the 2.2/2.4 kit) will be sucking in hot underhood air which is terrible for performance.

OP, either invest in a hydroshield for your filter, go back to the stock air box, or dont drive through standing water.

jlong3382

Won't your insurence company cover the damage? My insurence company would. I told them about my mods. They inspected the car. They raised my premiums. But now I'm covered

rukkee

iTrader: (3)

If I was in a situation where i had to drive threw water with an SS/SC .....and I had a CAI . I would get out and unhook the intake at the blower ..... not the best for the motor running unfiltered but it won't suck up enough water to hydrolock . Even if you don't have a screw driver .... a dime or penny will work in a pinch. The filter on my SS/SC seemed to attract water like a magnet even without standing water lol

tmharsh

Not necessarily; on my previous car, a GTP which did not have an intercooler like the SS/SC does, I used a cone filter on a short section of PVC piping and the knock I was seeing was cut in half compared to the stock gutted airbox. In that situation, increased air flow improved performance compared to the stock box that drew cooler air from behind the headlight.

Obviously, I'm talking about two different cars. But, since they both use roots-type blowers in a similar fashion, the way they react to intakes could be similar.

Staged07SS

iTrader: (25)

Yes, and no. They both maybe roots type blowers, but you have to remember GTP's usually run much lower boost levels than SS/SC's. The SS/SC guys are always trying to add mods to keep IAT2's under control, and a short ram intake would def not be a good idea for our case (hot underhood air = no no).

The stock air box on GTP's is very restrictive. Yes, it draws cooler air from the fendor well, but GM installed the friggin PCM inside of the air box, haha. I agree in your case that the addition flow helped your setup, but it is more ideal to draw cooler air for a blower car.

tmharsh

It was a 2000, which had an improved airbox compared to previous years and drew the air from behind the headlight. Plus, I gutted it and wrapped the crossover pipe just below the throttle body. I was seeing around 9psi with the stock pulley and that is without an intercooler.

I don't recall ever seeing the difference in temperature between a short intake and one that has the filter placed in the fender well. But, the air is heated the moment it enters the blower and then cooled right after. First assumption would say that the difference would stay consistent through the process, but I wouldn't be surprised if the final temp entering the cylinders was really close between both intake designs. Also, the intake piping itself is exposed to the underhood heat. What's best is car dependent, but it would be interesting to know how this actually plays out.

jojo91684

yeah just got off the phone with the shop and because when the water got sucked in it cause some rods to puncture a hole the size of a fist through my engine so they are covering it. thanks goodness for me that would have costed me more than i wanted to spend on it

SS Pyro IV

i would just invest in a hydro shield

rukkee

iTrader: (3)

Agreed ...... anyone running a CAI without one is asking for trouble . The plastic inner fenders on these cars have a gap at the top that actually grabs water coming off the tire .... it flows right down the inside of the fender directly at the air filter lol.

SS Pyro IV

either that or leave the car parked when its raining....

WV-CobaltSS/SC

im not gonna say this will stop flooding lol but on my old sc i had a hydroshield for my filter it helps somewhat

chris88z24

Actually, that filter might not be too bad because of the way the air flows over the motor when the car is moving. Hell, it might actually work even better than the fenderwell intake.

jojo91684

where can i purchase a hydro shield?

Staged07SS

iTrader: (25)

You make a lot of valid points. I guess the best way to see which is best would be through testing. I still wouldnt change the intake plumbing on an SS/SC though.

hawkesb3

iTrader: (1)

get the cai bypass valve from aem

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jojo91684

yeah someone mentioned the bypass valve.

jojo91684

im looking at the valves but not sure what the dia is. i have an 06 ss/sc K&N CAI. what is the size of that anyone know?

rukkee

iTrader: (3)

Did you get your intake new? The reason i ask is the K&N CAI for the SS/SC usually comes with a Hydroshield ....... It's not sitting in the bottom of the box or something is it?

jojo91684

yeah i got it brand new. no i emptied the box out but i didnt see no hydroshield unless it was the box looking thing that was on the stock intake