Ok wasent sure where to post this thread so here it goes.

I was having a coffe the other night at the local donut shop (Tim Hortons) When some guy comes up to me and starts checking out my car saying how nice it was and all. He asks me if it is intercooled and I say yes. He, being curious, wanted to see so I lift the hood being a nice guy and let him have a look. Now hes telling me that he dosent think it is intercooled and that what I thought was my intercooler is just my A/C Condensor. He was willing to bet then I made a wager. So whos right here?

Ps. Just a friendly wager next time I see him.

Sorry again if I posted in wrong place him a little slow ya know.

 

I am pritty sure that the heatexchanget for the intercooler is between the S/C condencer and the raditor

 

Yes your car is intercooled. Your intercooler is betweent the intake manifold and supercharger. Attached to it is a heat exchanger located between A/C condensor and radiator.

So what did you win?

 

It's in there with the radiator and the a/c condensor. There are three heatexchangers in a stack right next to eachother. They preheat eachother nicely like that...ugh.

 

Isn't there a short 3D video of the supercharger and intercooler for the 2.0l Ecotec?

 

Yes there is, but it's a little confusing, heh.

 

^^^^can we please have a link to the video?

 

Water To Air Intercooler

Not as easy to see as a FMIC.. Front Mount Intercooler..

The Water Intercooler consists of a heat exchanger in the front of the car, and one in the intake manifold. Coolant is pumped around the system...

 

NO our cars are NOT INTERCOOLED thay are AFTERCOOLED intercooling is cooling the incomeing air/fuel charge, before the charge hits the supercharcer(or turbocharger) before pressuerizing, aftercooling is when the pressuerized air/fuel is being cooled down before entering the combustion chamber, and after being pressuerized.

 

Thanks guys! So um did I win? The guys at the coffee shop will like this.

The prize? Bragging rights

 

Both accomplish the same task and that would be cooling down the hot air charge going into the cylinders. But thanks for making a post on such a trivial matter as a name error in an effort to prove someone wrong to make yourself look SMRT.

 

Um....our cars are definitly intercooled. Look it up, it will say that the SC is intercooled. The intercooler is between the supercharger and the manifold. Look on eatons site as well. I do see where you are comming from though. But I do believe that you are just misunderstood.

 

So what car uses a intercooler to cool the air before it hits the blower/turbo???

::cough::sarcasm::cough

That is pointless. But like said above, thanks for making a useless post trying to make someone else feel dumb.

 

http://www.usol.com/~cable/Video/Ecotec2.mpg

It'll be real choppy the first time you try to watch it. Let it buffer, play through completely once, then play it again and it'll run smooth.

 

read my post aftercooling is cooling a pressurized charge,
intercooling cools an un-pressuerized charge. just stating what
my turbine dynamics digree tought me to say...
sorry if i'm wrong supply proof if i am ?!?!?!

 

I'm not going to argue or anything. I'm still working on an engineering degree, so I'm no pro.

But, I do know that magazines, books, websites, forums, etc... call your typical Evo intercooler, a "front mount intercooler", but by your explanation, you say its a aftercooler. I've also never before seen or heard of a water/air intercooler, whether sandwiched under a blower or inline after the blower and before the throttle body, called anything other than an intercooler.

That is my only point. There are to many newbs on here who look at the heat exchanger and are going to start calling it a front mount aftercooler or something. Just don't want anymore confusion than there already is.

 

Did they have liberal arts requirements? I usually don't go after people's spelling but when your touting your education.

"degree taught me to say."

 

You definition is completely wrong , I am sorry to say . You got a degree from people who obviously didnt understand what they were talking about . If you can provide 1 intercooled car that is actually plumbed to route the air thru the intercooler 1st and then thru the blower , I will be amazed . Thats not how it works man ....the blower or turbo is what created all the heat . Pre-cooling ambient air would be about worthless . A supercharger set-up utilizing a intercooler ~or aftercooler goes like this . Ambient air on supercharger inlet , pressurized air on the supercharger outlet >pressurized air routed to the intercooler/aftercooler inlet to cool off alot of the heat the the supercharger created , then off to the throttle body it goes . The same routing happens when using a turbocharger . A aftercooler is the same thing , it cools the air between the blower and the intake just like a intercooler . Vortech is the only company that comes to mind that chooses to use the term aftercooling , maybe because their water to air system is different from the more typical air/air , who knows .

 

The only persuasive argument I've ever heard for calling it an after- rather than intercooler goes as follows-

The original term was aftercooler, because it cools air AFTER the charging system, versus on the old piston engine aircraft which ran inline turbos and had both an INTER (meaning "between" for those of you that missed that) and an after cooler. One cooler ran between the turbos and one ran after them.

Cars however do not often use inline charging with a true intercooler. The phrase intercooler when used referring to cars means "between (there's that inter) the charger and the manifold".

So the only real difference is whether or not you are trying to be the word police and maintain that all words should only be used in the sense that they were originally coined (which would really drive most people to say you are an insufferable ass) or if you accept that languages evolve over time, and realize that this is one such case where the terms have become interchangeable for the most part.

 

OK GM MASTER TECH>>>>>>
THE CAR HAS AN AFTERCOOLER.... which means that there is a radiator for the supercharger that liul resivor right nest to it is what cools the supercharger feel it after u run it hard its pretty cool... because it works the same way as the motors radiator... but instead of cooling the motor it cools the supercharger.... so this is the lay out..... Air goes into filter.... which travles threw intake Which is then Sucked into the COOLED SUPERCHARGER... and the forced into the engine.... there is no ""INNERCOOLER""

 

mmmm.. donuts

 

I could go for some donuts.

 

aftercooler, intercooler who cares if you say either one people will know what your talking about and most people will go with intercooler because aftercooler just sounds dumb

 

Good for you, you are absolutely right. Good job being an ASS about it. Technically it is aftercooled. But all systems on cars have come to be known as intercooled. Why? I do not know. American lazyness?

If you want to be technical your definition of intercool is wrong. To intercool is to cool the air between 2 charger systems. Mostly used in airplanes the intercooler is located in between the sequential turbos.

But I digress, now a days they are all known as intercoolers.

 

What a waste of a good thread. What is going on here, None of you 16 Year Olds got a date for the School Dance.