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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 01:33 PM
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Low Traction?

So whenever i'm in 2nd and i really get on it(14-16lbs boost guess cause i'm in ohio fail oh well) it almost always makes the tires break loose, and i get the annoying low traction message.. is this just due to moderate tires or does anyone else have this going on.. and what can i do to fix it outside of not getting on it in 2nd hah
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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turn on comp mode before WOT... Thats why its there
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mkulrey13
turn on comp mode before WOT... Thats why its there
This

2 clicks of the button to the right of your steering wheel and you are in Comp mode. no traction control
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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see i wondered that, i just thought it was for launch control o.O

as Bill Nye said "Now you know" haha
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenySC2
see i wondered that, i just thought it was for launch control o.O

as Bill Nye said "Now you know" haha
Yep. Also allows you to No Lift Shift when in Comp mode.
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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well how much different is the NLS in comp mode vs not being in it?
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:08 PM
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Sounds like another male with Low "T"
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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Sounds like another male with Low "T"
hah thats a good one
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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well how much different is the NLS in comp mode vs not being in it?
I dont know. I only NLS with it on. never tried it being off.
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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There's so much misinfo in here my head hurts

First, you only have to click it once to turn T/C off. Twice enables launch and keeps T/C off. If you hold it for 5 seconds it turns off T/C and ESC.

Secondly, you can NLS in any mode. GM stated that they did not want it to be mode specific incase someone didn't remember which mode they needed to be in, so you can NLS in any mode. I usually turn T/C off as a precaution because if I'm NLSing and the wheels slip, I don't want T/C kicking in and braking.

Third, at 14-16 psi it sounds like you're on the stock tune so if you're busting the tires free at that level you need better tires. If you ever get GMS1 or a 22-24 psi tune you will eat those tires up in no time.
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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There's so much misinfo in here my head hurts

First, you only have to click it once to turn T/C off. Twice enables launch and keeps T/C off. If you hold it for 5 seconds it turns off T/C and ESC.

Secondly, you can NLS in any mode. GM stated that they did not want it to be mode specific incase someone didn't remember which mode they needed to be in, so you can NLS in any mode. I usually turn T/C off as a precaution because if I'm NLSing and the wheels slip, I don't want T/C kicking in and braking.

Third, at 14-16 psi it sounds like you're on the stock tune so if you're busting the tires free at that level you need better tires. If you ever get GMS1 or a 22-24 psi tune you will eat those tires up in no time.
huh, i didnt know that. good to know you dont need to be in Comp mode to NLS
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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hah, does the car have a different persona in a sense with T/C ESC off?

and yeah tell me about it.. Nexen N5000 tires, 130mph rated -_- as far as i know it is stock tune, i am pretty sure this was owned by some older person..... cant complain the tires are 4 months old minus the one Nexen CP672 i just put on it after i got a slice in one of the N5000's it came with
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenySC2
hah, does the car have a different persona in a sense with T/C ESC off?

and yeah tell me about it.. Nexen N5000 tires, 130mph rated -_- as far as i know it is stock tune, i am pretty sure this was owned by some older person..... cant complain the tires are 4 months old minus the one Nexen CP672 i just put on it after i got a slice in one of the N5000's it came with
It does in a handling sense, yes. I've autocrossed with ESC both on and off and the differences are noticable. With it on, the car will do its best to prevent you from spining out and stuff by braking certain wheels to induce more understeer.
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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interesting... sounds like i'm going to have a fun drive to work tonight o.O hahaha
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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It does in a handling sense, yes. I've autocrossed with ESC both on and off and the differences are noticable. With it on, the car will do its best to prevent you from spining out and stuff by braking certain wheels to induce more understeer.
I get ESC to kick in a couple times a month and my god can you feel it. It's nice that it keeps you from wrecking, but man does it feel weird. It's like the car gets punched in the chest when you are expecting it to corner hard.
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 02:51 PM
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i'm coming from a 99 Saturn SC2 with zero computer aid... no ABS, none of it... so i'm still a little new on the turning things off to do what i did in it hah
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 08:01 PM
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Seeing as how this thread ended up on a NLS topic I have a question. How SLOW can you NLS without damage? I found too fast I'm binding and John said in my thread to slow it down a bit. If say I take like a full sec-1.5 sec to shift bouncing off the rev limiter, how and what is this going to hurt????
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Nvm think John just answered this
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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interesting... sounds like i'm going to have a fun drive to work tonight o.O hahaha
in for pics of another wrecked cobalt.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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hah no wreck here...

and speaking of slowing down on NLS, its funny when i am just dicking around on the streets i almost always let off the clutch before i get it into third oops, but when i am booking getting on the highway i get it everytime, weird
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AaronJ
There's so much misinfo in here my head hurts

First, you only have to click it once to turn T/C off. Twice enables launch and keeps T/C off. If you hold it for 5 seconds it turns off T/C and ESC.

Secondly, you can NLS in any mode. GM stated that they did not want it to be mode specific incase someone didn't remember which mode they needed to be in, so you can NLS in any mode. I usually turn T/C off as a precaution because if I'm NLSing and the wheels slip, I don't want T/C kicking in and braking.

Third, at 14-16 psi it sounds like you're on the stock tune so if you're busting the tires free at that level you need better tires. If you ever get GMS1 or a 22-24 psi tune you will eat those tires up in no time.
At first I thought he was looking to improve traction to be able to floor it in second gear and not lose traction but I guess he just wanted to spin tires without the message... you covered it all.
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