well played sir...well played :P


man i was backing you up..but after reading that you just put a sour taste in everyones mouth for young drivers, thanks!

first of all..being pretty much the same age as you, A SRT-4 IS A 2.4L TURBOBCHARGED CAR, YOU WILL GET YOUR SELF HURT IN IT!!! keep the cobalt..work up speeds with bolt ons, then when u are ready to handel the boost go get your srt-4 and u will relize when ur older and alive that you made the right desiction!

 

The kids died driving like idiots.
I'm not a street racer, I wasn't speeding when this accident happened.
A car almost pulled out infront of me and i looked at him then looked back forward to see the car had suddenly stopped, then my brakes locked up.
Kids have died driving srt-4's because they drive like idiots on the road going 120 in a 55 on a curvy road and slam on the breaks.
I was going 45. The speed limit.
I don't speed on the road, my kills in the signature were from a drag strip with my brother driving.
I'm not a street racer, any car will get you killed if you're a ******* driver. But safety features like side airbags and 4 wheel ABS disc brakes help keep SAFE drivers safer.

And i don't drink, i don't smoke, i don't do drugs, a lot of the drivers on the road are stoned or drunk a lot of the time, and i thank you PC for backing me up

 

yes, maybe people were being immature. point is, you shouldn't get an srt-4. that's a bad move. if you hit them in the back, you didn't leave enough distance, end of story. doesn't matter if you have abs or not, you should know your car, know it's limitations. doestn' matter if the person in front of you stopped short, it was wet, whatever. you didn't leave enough space. it's not the cars fault, it's not the brakes fault. you shouldn't have slammed the brakes like you did if you don't have abs. you should have pumped them. if you used the brakes properly, they would NOT have locked up, and you would NOT have skidded like that. again, end of story.

if you're going to get another car, maybe you should look into just getting a **** box till you have more driving expereience, and feel a little more secure behind the wheel. i bet that's the last thing you want to hear, but it's the best option at this point. unless your car is payed off, i'm sure you're going to get beat hard on trade in, especially when the car comes up as being in an accident. and after your accident comes up in the reports, you will get whacked hard for insurance being a 16 year old male that has an accident on their report.

coming from experience, do NOT trust online quotes or any kind of quotes for insurance. of course they're going to quote you a good price, that's how they get you. then you sign up, and they call and say "O, by the way, since you had an accident you're new premium is xxxxx" and it will be much higher than what you were quoted. i had one accident, and my insurance doubled. and there wsan't even anyone else involved, i hit a damn tree. all things to take into consideration.

my advice? either keep the cobalt and just get more familiar with your car, or get a **** box.

 

ok I can't ignore this.

You sir are and idiot.

First of all I'm not an old bastard with ed. I'm 22. How fast were you going when you were skidding 90ft? If you were driving the speed limit you'd never skid 90 feet in ANYTHING. Period. And sure we'd love it if all new drivers could have a car with amazing braking, but the only car's that have this amazing braking are performance cars that need it. A base cobalt doesnt becuase it shouldn't be driven like an SS to begin with. Along that line, I'd much rather see a kid in a slow car with normal brakes than a kid in a fast car with good brakes any day. Speed kills.
We're poking fun at your immature behavior and how you're so ignorant about it. This is so typcal. You should read more and learn from the older guys before you go ranting like you are. Some of us are trying to give advice, but you are being unreasonably. First and formost you should just take it easy on the road. Like I said before if you're driving with care there should be very little reason to lock up the brakes. I've taken many driving courses (work requirement) as well taken alot of info from my father who is a truck driver. All have said that 99% of accidents are avoidable.
Just realize that you have alot of growing up to do. Saying "That's immature, and stupid, but then again i wouldn't expect an online forum to give a **** about someone dying" Show's how immature you really are. It would be cold and heartless to think that we don't care whether you live or dye. Come on man.

 

wow i think this is the first time ive ever agreed with everything uve said !!! this calls for some rep handing out!

 

well put. +rep

 

haha, i'm not that bad, am i?? and back at ya.

 

more agreeince (SP) handing out some more +rep

 

beats the hell outta me why a neon, nitro and Honda Fit were at a drag strip.

 

i'm not saying that i drive the car like an SS.
I was going 45, if you think that my car won't skid 90 feet with locked up brakes on a hot DRY day, then i'll show you pictures. The CSI said the skid line was 87.3 feet and i was going approximately 44 mph.
Like i said, i wasn't speeding, i don't drive stupid, and don't say that i could have avoided an accident. It's possible that i could have yes, but you're talking like noone should have an accident. And as far as the cobalt's braking, my mom's a dentist and one of her patients died because of the bad braking in her 06 LS sedan. She actually died, i consider myself lucky.
And getting an SRT-4 woudn't exactly be a death wish in my opinion, like i said, i don't drive crazy, the only time my car has been over 70 MPH was when my brother was racing it at the drag strip.
I've taken safety courses, and they never covered non ABS braking, in my defense, not an excuse though.
I thought about pulling the e-brake except for teh affects that it has of rear wheel braking, it could've sent me sideways into the other lane which would have been worse.
If i did get an SRT-4 i wouldn't drive it fast or like an idiot. It'd be a fast car, and power when i need it, and also brakes when i need it, plus it's a significant upgrade in safety from a LT balt.
Like i said, the only fast driving would be on a drag strip, which i wouldn't be able to do til i was 18 anyways, so it wouldn't matter, i wouldn't be WOT all the time like some idiots.

 

let him do what he wants.....Darwinism will take over....lets just hope nobody else goes with him....

 

neon was a joke i think and the Honda fit was a typical ricer with system, neon, exhaust, etc.

 

andrew dont use words us young folks dont understand :P

oh wait..inst that with evolution :P

 

i don't think anyone said that the car won't skid that far with the brakes locked. the point is, the brakes shouldn't have been locked in the first place. you didn't brake properly. stop getting so defensive, just take the advice that has been given, ignore the ********, and call it a day. let it be a learning experience, and it will be worth it in the long run. be happy that you're posting online now, not in a hospital or a body bag.

 

Ahh, I see. Well thats kinda shitty...but I guess if you get pnuemonia or break every bone in your body, those few bucks off your check are worth it.

Lol! You don't buy a fast car if you don't plan on going fast.

You modded your balt, and you have future speed mods listed in your sig. Don't try and fill us full of **** that you don't go fast. You wouldn't have kills posted if you aren't interested in racing!

 

If I didn't care if you lived or died I'ld have said get the SRT. I doet think your driving skills are up to a car that fast yet. You skidding 90 feet is proof. E-brake would've been worse. Get better tires and the braking will inprove. If your skidding the brakes are working, the tires aren't. Yes I'm an old fart. Yes my dick works. My parents love me enough to not let me have a fast car when I was your age, and I hope for your sake your parents do the same.

 

My first car was a 1999 escort 2 door, salvage title that my dad got for 2k when it had only 18k miles on it(so just imagine how shitty it was) no airbags, nothing i got the car with 80k and all of the sudden wham the motor spun a bearing at 95k.

you are lucky to have a semi new car early on in your life, just whatever you do be careful and make sure the decision you make will not put your life in danger(srt)

 

^^^ exactly. i'm 26 and the 2.0 is my first "quick" car. before this i had the 2.2, before that a taurus station wagon and before that a cavy. looking back, i think it's for the best. now that i have a car that actually moves, i don't abuse it and do stupid **** the same way i KNOW i would have if i had this car when i was younger.

it's always easier to look back and see how things make sense. but it's much harder ot look forward and see what will make sense in the future.

 

dude i'm sorry but the only way you will NOT speed if you get a SRT4 is if you get pulled over too many times so you'll lose your license.. seriously you can say that all you want but having that go at your foot is just fun sometimes.. you need a SLOW car that you fully understand how to maneuver and handle. in my old sl1 i didn't have ABS either i ALMOST rear ended someone when they stopped dead about 40 ft in front of me. and i was going 40 or so.. however knowing what to do in the situation saved my ass and stopped me probably 6" or less from the guys bumper... also it's not the brakes thats the issue.. it's the tires.. the stock contis blow chunks... fix your car.. get new tires and hell get rims if you want and lower it .. make your car look nice then you'll be able to handle better too .. but for the love of christ don't come on here saying it's the cars brakes that made you skid 90ft... seriously theres the 2 second rule for a reason...

do your self and your wallet a favor (because there is no way an SRT4 is going to be cheaper, since statisctically has one of the highest accident/death rates for compact cars dew to young idiot drivers, your insurance is going to be huge... just got your license.. accident on your record.. and an srt4 :rollseyes

if we didn't care about you killing yourself in an srt 4 we wouldn't have posted but frankly myself as well as others on the forum don't want another statistic for many reasons

you're too naive (judging by the way you're talking) to be telling some of the other members that we're immature for telling you good advice. learn how to drive 100% correctly.. because not only are you lucky you're alive.. you're lucky you didn't seriously hurt the person you ran into, you never know what other people will do on the road.. but you need to be prepared for everything so you can avoid an accident as efficiently as possible

 

the only reason i got my cobalt is that my focus was totalled (while it was parked at my house) im only 19 and some of you may say i am also young but i pay every month for my car, and my expenses and i still have time to go to school for my future profession as a firefighter/paramedic, keep good grades, and work to pay for gas, insurance, car payment, and mods.

it does sound like you are immature and are not ready for a "fast" car if you want to call it that. if you have only been driving less than a year what makes you say that you can handle a FWD car with 230hp. do you even know how that car will drive in the rain? even with abs and good tires. and why do you want a fast car is you never drive fast? and let only your brother race it at the track? if you want to be safe get a camry or something WITH ABS

 

dude im 17 and even i wouldnt get an srt 4 right now.....

ive been racing go karts since i was 8, then at 14 shifter karts (dont flame, those things literally are faster then any car on the street) and now im getting into late models. So i know what im talking about when i say speed is the greatest factor in accidents, cuz when u push it to the limit, sooner or later the limit will be pushed and you will get hurt.

 

i agree being your only 16 do not get a boosted car. drive for a few years then upgrade. i myself have 4 cars and i am 19. my first car was a ford tempo, NO ABS...no crash ever, even with shitty 40 dollar tires. next car was a 90 integra.. once again no abs, i had BALD tires, all four, driving in 6" snow on a highway going 25 all the way home with semis throwing snow on my windshield next to me. took me 5 hrs to get home when it usually takes an hr and half, and still no crash.

next 2 cars are my 07 cobalt ss/sc and a 88 camaro thats a project car that i bought for a dollar and have been fixing up. all i can say going form a 90 integra (similar to a low end cobalt, but the coblat is a bit stronger) to a stage 2 supercharged car is a WORLDS DIFFERENCE. it not only makes you want to have the urge to floor it more often (because the power is there) but it is too much power for a 16 yr old that just started driving. trust me on this, keep ur cobalt, fix it up and get some suspension mods done. like someone else was saying, get really good tires, and better springs and shocks. it will change the car completly. itll stick to the ground on corners and stop on a dime just by those little upgrades.

your to young and inexperienced for speed. learn defensive driving and the best advice i have ever had was from my dad, NEVER just look at the car infront of you, you have to be aware of EVERYONE around you. look 5 cars ahead, memorize the cars behind you, check your mirrors alot. because when someone 4 cars ahead starts slowing down, thats when you should, not when the guy infront of you is. and always have an escape if something happens to the car infront of you, thats why you remember whos around you at all times and know that if you have to you can slide into the other lane with no problems.

keep the cobalt, dont go with an srt-4. trust me the insurance will be higher. right now my brother has a ss/sc 07. he just turned 18 and his insurance is 1700 every 6 months. thats 283 a month with a CLEAN record. mine is 1200 because i have a good student discount and a clean record. with an accident you can expect at least 350 a month guarenteed. call a insurance company and get a qoute with an accident, dont do online.

and good luck with everything

 

silentd is right. hott girl in the avatar btw lol

 

Na man, I won't hate on the SRT-4. I have been trying to get an 05 this past week with 9k miles on it but the dealer wouldn't take my offer. Look around at different insurance companies as well man. I know when I got an estimate for an SRT-4 (05) they were asking 314 a month for full coverage. My SS used to be 225 or so but has been cut in half because of a program I just completed. I am 19 yrs old with a clean record. No crashes or tickets.

I will be honest with you about this. The Cobalt SS/SC banks like crap after so many miles. They were gonna give me 12 for mine and I have 35000 miles on it and I also have the G85 package which is a lil more expensive. Not sure what exactly you have but I would be willing to bet that if you don't pay off the car or put some serious cash down towards a new car the deal won't work. That was my main problem was the neg equity. And also keep in mind your vehicle is crashed and as soon as you go to the insurance it goes on the vehicles history and will kill the value. So you might end up just having to stick with the Cobalt man.

Also, with you being 16 I am sure you have no credit and will need a co-signer for the new car...parents will do that for you or no?

 

im guessing no if they are leaving all of this madness on him

dude if you dont drive fast dont get a fast car, simple as that.