New here with a few questions
You requested info on the member. What do you want us to tell you? Seems you guys already invaded his facebook so you already know more than us. Maybe you weren't doubting his numbers but half of the forum was. I don't see what else you need to know. Yes, his tune could use some work but it stll peaks at 397 whp which was the only reason he posted the dyno since everyone called bs. Why do you care about his power curve? lol. I never said anything about dyno's being a waste of money so you must be referring to someone else. Though I will say dyno's should be used as a tuning tool not a way to measure **** size.
His tune could use some work? That's a understatement. He's got a turbo capable of 500 hp and its falling on it's face after 5500 rpms. Your knowledge of turbos is questionable. That is either a very terrible tune, or he's not running a s20g turbo. You seem a little ignorant.
Why do I care about his power curve? Imagine if I made 400 whp......at 3000 rpm's, but only made 140 whp at 6700 (red line). How much of my power is actually usable? Power under the curve is what matters, not peak numbers. Peak numbers are for marketing. You should know this.
I haven't personally invaded his facebook. But seriously, its facebook. Its public. What fairytale land do you live in? "Yesterday I invaded the local library and took some of the books home and showed them to my friends." MSF is our outlet, the beauty of it is we can act and say whatever we want, it's quite relaxing lol
wether he has a turbo capable of 500hp or not im sure hes not gonna go there anytime soon unless he wants to do a whole engine rebuild because the stock internals will not be able to handle it. think first, its not just slap a turbo on tune and bam 500hp.
Not saying he's trying to make 500 hp. I'm pointing out the fact that a turbo capable of 500 hp shouldn't be falling on its face after 5500. Simply put, the power should have at least held until red line. Load at lower rpm's is more strenuous on the motor than the same load at higher rpm's. I'm well aware that 500 hp is not as easy as slapping on turbo and a tune.
If I got a gt3076 (capable of 500 hp) I would be pissed as hell if my power curve looked like that after a tune.
I am Nataphen, the douche mod from MSF. Not sure why Amazon went to these lengths to do this, but I figured I'd explain myself anyway. CobaltSS (his SN on our forum) and I met in our shoutbox last night. We had already had our friendly exchanges, given each other ****, and I was continuing in that spirit.
For some reason, the money comment got under my skin, bad day to blame I guess. Keeping one of my kids at home with the flu and had to order new tires today, which I wasn't expecting nor can I afford at the moment. After that, I quit posting, but I apologized to CobaltSS in shout soon after. Offered to buy him a chocolate milk if he was in town since he's not old enough to drink.
That's all, just letting you guys know that I'm normally more laid back. I was even nice to all the Civic guys on 8thcivic during our forum war.
For some reason, the money comment got under my skin, bad day to blame I guess. Keeping one of my kids at home with the flu and had to order new tires today, which I wasn't expecting nor can I afford at the moment. After that, I quit posting, but I apologized to CobaltSS in shout soon after. Offered to buy him a chocolate milk if he was in town since he's not old enough to drink.
That's all, just letting you guys know that I'm normally more laid back. I was even nice to all the Civic guys on 8thcivic during our forum war.
Sweet Jesus, that MS Forum is worse than ours. We even have Perfect.Disguise with a Neon peacefully coexisting with us
. Of course they come here to troll and complain about him trolling. If your going to waste the bandwith on our site start donating
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What is so unbelievable that you had to troll a cobalt forum. Are the numbers believable, um, yeah. LSJ will make 400+ stock with a turbo. 22lbs is about right with a good tune to do almost 400. As for the torque, maybe it's just how his timing table is set up? Ever think about that? Of course not you're a fucktard. Now go back to your dragon looking ms3 humper site and break some more rods trying to make 350hp.
What is so unbelievable that you had to troll a cobalt forum. Are the numbers believable, um, yeah. LSJ will make 400+ stock with a turbo. 22lbs is about right with a good tune to do almost 400. As for the torque, maybe it's just how his timing table is set up? Ever think about that? Of course not you're a fucktard. Now go back to your dragon looking ms3 humper site and break some more rods trying to make 350hp.
I'm bored here so I'm reading some of this, and wow the mazda replies are some of the stupidest ******* things I've ever heard. First you have a stock mazdaspeed miata(doesn't even make 200hp? LMAO) saying that he kept right up with a camaro ss 

, then your forum has "groan" buttons, I mean wtf is your forum url supposed to be flagrant homosexuals r us or what. You all talk about mazda3's being quality like they actually are, ROFL.
Both are nice cars I'd only drive one of the older speed3's and def not a speed6. No need to be a bunch of douchebags because at the end of the day whether you want to admit it or not, you too drive an econobox.
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And don't come back.
Both are nice cars I'd only drive one of the older speed3's and def not a speed6. No need to be a bunch of douchebags because at the end of the day whether you want to admit it or not, you too drive an econobox.
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And don't come back.
What is so unbelievable that you had to troll a cobalt forum. Are the numbers believable, um, yeah. LSJ will make 400+ stock with a turbo. 22lbs is about right with a good tune to do almost 400. As for the torque, maybe it's just how his timing table is set up? Ever think about that? Of course not you're a fucktard. Now go back to your dragon looking ms3 humper site and break some more rods trying to make 350hp.
I think Marissa has drawn the most logical conclusion. If that is indeed his dyno, then his tuner didn't know what they were doing.
FYI: Plenty of MS3's are making well over 400 whp on stock internals.
You guys fail hard. Did any of you even read my original post and following ones? The numbers are not in question, the power curve is. I question it because the curve does not resemble a turbo capable of 500 hp. Therefore, I question whether or not it is indeed his dyno sheet. Is that too complicated for you guys to follow?
I think Marissa has drawn the most logical conclusion. If that is indeed his dyno, then his tuner didn't know what they were doing.
FYI: Plenty of MS3's are making well over 400 whp on stock internals.
I think Marissa has drawn the most logical conclusion. If that is indeed his dyno, then his tuner didn't know what they were doing.
FYI: Plenty of MS3's are making well over 400 whp on stock internals.
You guys fail hard. Did any of you even read my original post and following ones? The numbers are not in question, the power curve is. I question it because the curve does not resemble a turbo capable of 500 hp. Therefore, I question whether or not it is indeed his dyno sheet. Is that too complicated for you guys to follow?
I think Marissa has drawn the most logical conclusion. If that is indeed his dyno, then his tuner didn't know what they were doing.
FYI: Plenty of MS3's are making well over 400 whp on stock internals.
I think Marissa has drawn the most logical conclusion. If that is indeed his dyno, then his tuner didn't know what they were doing.
FYI: Plenty of MS3's are making well over 400 whp on stock internals.
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Bro can you not ******* read. Where did he ever claim 500hp?? Why are you just pulling #'s out of your ass? An s20g will have a hard time seeing 500. Read my post again, you seemed to have skipped over the part where his tuner was probably lazy and his timing table isn't crisp and clean. Good for 400, right right, go for a road trip, let your intake fill up with oil rofl. You fail hard, now go tell your mother I love her
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First off - gotta get mine in: 
Second - what the heck is this noise about "a turbo capable of 500hp shouldn't fall on its face"? Are we talking generic, or specific to these little engines, or the specific turbo in question? There's a lot of detail missing here, and that detail will determine whether that dyno sheet speaks truth or not.

Second - what the heck is this noise about "a turbo capable of 500hp shouldn't fall on its face"? Are we talking generic, or specific to these little engines, or the specific turbo in question? There's a lot of detail missing here, and that detail will determine whether that dyno sheet speaks truth or not.
What they did with his facebook was totally uncalled for. Anyone who has to totally de value another person and get that kind of pleasure out of it is pretty pathetic in my opinion.
Congratulations you have won the argument and done yourself and your car forum proud sir.
Congratulations you have won the argument and done yourself and your car forum proud sir.
Bro can you not ******* read. Where did he ever claim 500hp?? Why are you just pulling #'s out of your ass? An s20g will have a hard time seeing 500. Read my post again, you seemed to have skipped over the part where his tuner was probably lazy and his timing table isn't crisp and clean. Good for 400, right right, go for a road trip, let your intake fill up with oil rofl. You fail hard, now go tell your mother I love her
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A turbo that is capable of flowing enough air to make 500 hp should not have any issues flowing enough air for 400 hp at reline. Let me know if you can grasp the logic here.
Once again, no one, including me, ever claimed he was making 500 hp. I encourage you to re-read this entire thread. Maybe you'll learn something.
As for the pcv system jab, I own a 2010, it has a totally revised system and is no longer an issue lol
And we did, perhaps you guys would care to go up against us next year? We finished 3rd over all behind a track prepped STI and Z06. We bested the times of a Viper ACR, M3, Evo and some other higher end cars. Our guy was making around 270 - 280 whp lol



