New here with a few questions
I'm sorry, but do you really not know how to quote on your own forum?
His tune could use some work? That's a understatement. He's got a turbo capable of 500 hp and its falling on it's face after 5500 rpms. Your knowledge of turbos is questionable. That is either a very terrible tune, or he's not running a s20g turbo. You seem a little ignorant.
Why do I care about his power curve? Imagine if I made 400 whp......at 3000 rpm's, but only made 140 whp at 6700 (red line). How much of my power is actually usable? Power under the curve is what matters, not peak numbers. Peak numbers are for marketing. You should know this.
I haven't personally invaded his facebook. But seriously, its facebook. Its public. What fairytale land do you live in? "Yesterday I invaded the local library and took some of the books home and showed them to my friends." MSF is our outlet, the beauty of it is we can act and say whatever we want, it's quite relaxing lol
His tune could use some work? That's a understatement. He's got a turbo capable of 500 hp and its falling on it's face after 5500 rpms. Your knowledge of turbos is questionable. That is either a very terrible tune, or he's not running a s20g turbo. You seem a little ignorant.
Why do I care about his power curve? Imagine if I made 400 whp......at 3000 rpm's, but only made 140 whp at 6700 (red line). How much of my power is actually usable? Power under the curve is what matters, not peak numbers. Peak numbers are for marketing. You should know this.
I haven't personally invaded his facebook. But seriously, its facebook. Its public. What fairytale land do you live in? "Yesterday I invaded the local library and took some of the books home and showed them to my friends." MSF is our outlet, the beauty of it is we can act and say whatever we want, it's quite relaxing lol
Ok long story short.
He said he could keep up on your forum after he mispoke about a car he didnt know much about, than admitted he was wrong and just trying to learn.
You guys bashed him calling him and his car a pos, and that his claims are bs and what not.
He posts dyno sheet.
Now with **** on your face that he proved a dyno sheet, or at least showed any dyno sheet, your still not happy and have to talk **** about. "Oh he makes 397 but i would still rape him cuz his power curve sucks". You sound like an LSJ guy to an LNF guy on here, trust me members on here know what I mean.
What more does this guy have to do to make you happy?
Next thing you know, youll call BS on him having four tires, he will show his four tires, and you will talk **** because the car only doesnt have a full spare, and your car does. (i have no idea if it does or doesnt just showing my logic).
I mean honestly, what are you trying to get out of it?
Yes you can make more HP than hahn, great parts, but their tune sux. Also trifecta tune is hardly the alpha omega tune for cobalts. In fact, the only reason why most people get them is to unlock the fuel maps, than they go get a custom HPtune over that. Terminater2 and Nick at BYT are probably the best tuners for cobalts that people drive THOUSANDS of miles to get tuned by. Vince (trifecta) has a certain road blocks in tunes he puts for himself to be safe, whereas other people will give the customer what they want with a fair warning.
Look around, all the big power cars on this sight IF they do have a trifecta tune are also tuned over that with something else.
Whats really scary is the amount of dick swinging over there, man I thought this sight was horrifically childish.... WOW, but thats not your fault so whatever.
Just realize we are all driving econoboxes with turbos and suspensions slapped in and sold for 25k and less. Who cares how fast you are. At the end of the day, were all driving cars that for the most part in 5 years will be POS' from the beatings or the design of the car they come from. Get over it, none of these cars will be in barret jackson 20 years from now with people going "wow". haha
He said he could keep up on your forum after he mispoke about a car he didnt know much about, than admitted he was wrong and just trying to learn.
You guys bashed him calling him and his car a pos, and that his claims are bs and what not.
He posts dyno sheet.
Now with **** on your face that he proved a dyno sheet, or at least showed any dyno sheet, your still not happy and have to talk **** about. "Oh he makes 397 but i would still rape him cuz his power curve sucks". You sound like an LSJ guy to an LNF guy on here, trust me members on here know what I mean.
What more does this guy have to do to make you happy?
Next thing you know, youll call BS on him having four tires, he will show his four tires, and you will talk **** because the car only doesnt have a full spare, and your car does. (i have no idea if it does or doesnt just showing my logic).
I mean honestly, what are you trying to get out of it?
Yes you can make more HP than hahn, great parts, but their tune sux. Also trifecta tune is hardly the alpha omega tune for cobalts. In fact, the only reason why most people get them is to unlock the fuel maps, than they go get a custom HPtune over that. Terminater2 and Nick at BYT are probably the best tuners for cobalts that people drive THOUSANDS of miles to get tuned by. Vince (trifecta) has a certain road blocks in tunes he puts for himself to be safe, whereas other people will give the customer what they want with a fair warning.
Look around, all the big power cars on this sight IF they do have a trifecta tune are also tuned over that with something else.
Whats really scary is the amount of dick swinging over there, man I thought this sight was horrifically childish.... WOW, but thats not your fault so whatever.
Just realize we are all driving econoboxes with turbos and suspensions slapped in and sold for 25k and less. Who cares how fast you are. At the end of the day, were all driving cars that for the most part in 5 years will be POS' from the beatings or the design of the car they come from. Get over it, none of these cars will be in barret jackson 20 years from now with people going "wow". haha
No sir, YOU cannot read. I never said he claimed 500 hp. You are stupid and senile. Re-read my previous post. What does it say? I said a turbo capable of 500 hp shouldn't be falling on it's face at 5500 after not even making 400 hp. Can you not read?
A turbo that is capable of flowing enough air to make 500 hp should not have any issues flowing enough air for 400 hp at reline. Let me know if you can grasp the logic here.
Once again, no one, including me, ever claimed he was making 500 hp. I encourage you to re-read this entire thread. Maybe you'll learn something.
As for the pcv system jab, I own a 2010, it has a totally revised system and is no longer an issue lol
And we did, perhaps you guys would care to go up against us next year? We finished 3rd over all behind a track prepped STI and Z06. We bested the times of a Viper ACR, M3, Evo and some other higher end cars. Our guy was making around 270 - 280 whp lol
A turbo that is capable of flowing enough air to make 500 hp should not have any issues flowing enough air for 400 hp at reline. Let me know if you can grasp the logic here.
Once again, no one, including me, ever claimed he was making 500 hp. I encourage you to re-read this entire thread. Maybe you'll learn something.
As for the pcv system jab, I own a 2010, it has a totally revised system and is no longer an issue lol
And we did, perhaps you guys would care to go up against us next year? We finished 3rd over all behind a track prepped STI and Z06. We bested the times of a Viper ACR, M3, Evo and some other higher end cars. Our guy was making around 270 - 280 whp lol
How are you going to say that dyno shows a car falling on it's face, at best it needs some timing reworked and a few other things.
You guys need to wipe the sand out of your vag's. No one is knocking on his numbers, we believe it.
Say you claim you have a down pipe to sell me, wouldn't it be logical for me to ask for pictures of it before I forked over money? Not going to give you 100% of my belief until I see actual evidence it exists. Hope that example was simple enough for you to grasp.
Anyways, I have a shitty tuner that blew up a buddy's car, so I'll be preoccupied hunting him down for awhile.
FYHN,
-Ama
No, noone's butthurt, you're just a moron. Making a name and joining another forum to troll. Right.
You do realize the many factors that could affect a cars performance. tune intake manifold/runner length etc etc, right? Still don't understand what the infatuation is though. Whatever gets you off mr econobox mazda.
You do realize the many factors that could affect a cars performance. tune intake manifold/runner length etc etc, right? Still don't understand what the infatuation is though. Whatever gets you off mr econobox mazda.
why are you guys bashing on him? He just wanted to find a dbag cobalt owner (the majority of us apparently) that keeps popping in the ms3 forums with stupid **** and insults. He flat out said numbers are believable, he never said "cobalts are ***** cars and ms3 are much faster". We could have ranked up to the level of the corvette forum in honest prosperity but you guys are telling him to gtfo and stfu?
I would love to read the thread on ms3 though.
I would love to read the thread on ms3 though.
why are you guys bashing on him? He just wanted to find a dbag cobalt owner (the majority of us apparently) that keeps popping in the ms3 forums with stupid **** and insults. He flat out said numbers are believable, he never said "cobalts are ***** cars and ms3 are much faster". We could have ranked up to the level of the corvette forum in honest prosperity but you guys are telling him to gtfo and stfu?
I would love to read the thread on ms3 though.
I would love to read the thread on ms3 though.
read the ms3 thread on cobaltss..New (pics) - Mazdaspeed Forums he was respectful and not ignorant and ms3 homos **** on his parade? Amazon, you called our cars "slow". You raging homosexuals have to realize that just because you "ran" a car that said "cobalt ss" doesn't mean it's fast. Now you can go back to your forum and proceed to stick each-others fingers in each-others butts and suck your thumbs. And yes it does sound like the power and tq are in question. Have fun driving to soccer practice *******.
read the ms3 thread on cobaltss..New (pics) - Mazdaspeed Forums he was respectful and not ignorant and ms3 homos **** on his parade? Amazon, you called our cars "slow". You raging homosexuals have to realize that just because you "ran" a car that said "cobalt ss" doesn't mean it's fast. Now you can go back to your forum and proceed to stick each-others fingers in each-others butts and suck your thumbs. And yes it does sound like the power and tq are in question. Have fun driving to soccer practice *******.
Sir, you drive a Saturn?
Yea, I said the Cobalt SS was slow, referring to the SS S/C. No biggie guys, keep looking through my posts, I call my car slow too several times. We actually hate on our own cars a fair amount, its all good and fun.
Anyways, I started out nice, and you guys lashed out. Cobaltboi started out acting like he knew everything. Bad move, his ignorance concerning our platform was evident. Had he asdmitted his lack of knowledge, it would have ended there. As for people trolling his Facebook? Well, like I previously stated, if its Facebook then it's public and it's not an invasion of privacy. This isn't rocket science. Facebook = public. If we can see your pics that means he has his settings set to public.
^ A Saturn Redline is a Cobalt SS. There's no need to bring it to Facebook level or anything, it's not that big of a deal. If he was trolling you guys took the bait hook line and sinker, get over it and move on.
Joel
Joel
ok i skipped bc people tell them to get out whe n it was a simple question. as far as i understand. that is the stage 5 hahn turbo setup. Idk why it has tape on it but W/E
there is a guy in so cal pushing almost 500hp on his stage 5 hahn turbo lsj but he also has a built motor.
numbers are def possible.
only think im seeing thats weird is the fact that its dropping on its face after 4.5K. the altitude and thin air prolly wouldnt have that big an effect on the tune......unless vince from trifecta didnt think about it.
in that case he would make even more hp thn where he is.
now...it wont b a straight curve of hp and TQ bc the fact its not NA or SC. its a TC so numbers are gunna be wacky no matter what.
I personally like private tuners btr than trifecta. but thats my opinion.
there is a guy in so cal pushing almost 500hp on his stage 5 hahn turbo lsj but he also has a built motor.
numbers are def possible.
only think im seeing thats weird is the fact that its dropping on its face after 4.5K. the altitude and thin air prolly wouldnt have that big an effect on the tune......unless vince from trifecta didnt think about it.
in that case he would make even more hp thn where he is.
now...it wont b a straight curve of hp and TQ bc the fact its not NA or SC. its a TC so numbers are gunna be wacky no matter what.
I personally like private tuners btr than trifecta. but thats my opinion.
lol @ forums wars... these forums are all full of people that will bash each others cars and other brands... it's the way it is...
amazon: give the guy a break.. he made the numbers .. who cares why it falls on it's face? keep in mind that he's young... remember what it was like? i doubt very much that 99% of the members on your site would back down from being insulted or admit that they don't know alot about power curves and such. it's a young persons mentality.. accept it and leave the guy alone.
amazon: give the guy a break.. he made the numbers .. who cares why it falls on it's face? keep in mind that he's young... remember what it was like? i doubt very much that 99% of the members on your site would back down from being insulted or admit that they don't know alot about power curves and such. it's a young persons mentality.. accept it and leave the guy alone.
ok i skipped bc people tell them to get out whe n it was a simple question. as far as i understand. that is the stage 5 hahn turbo setup. Idk why it has tape on it but W/E
there is a guy in so cal pushing almost 500hp on his stage 5 hahn turbo lsj but he also has a built motor.
numbers are def possible.
only think im seeing thats weird is the fact that its dropping on its face after 4.5K. the altitude and thin air prolly wouldnt have that big an effect on the tune......unless vince from trifecta didnt think about it.
in that case he would make even more hp thn where he is.
now...it wont b a straight curve of hp and TQ bc the fact its not NA or SC. its a TC so numbers are gunna be wacky no matter what.
I personally like private tuners btr than trifecta. but thats my opinion.
there is a guy in so cal pushing almost 500hp on his stage 5 hahn turbo lsj but he also has a built motor.
numbers are def possible.
only think im seeing thats weird is the fact that its dropping on its face after 4.5K. the altitude and thin air prolly wouldnt have that big an effect on the tune......unless vince from trifecta didnt think about it.
in that case he would make even more hp thn where he is.
now...it wont b a straight curve of hp and TQ bc the fact its not NA or SC. its a TC so numbers are gunna be wacky no matter what.
I personally like private tuners btr than trifecta. but thats my opinion.
Correct, he does live in Co, I'm going to bet the air density played a part as well. From what I gathered, Trifecta is not as amazing as it has been made out to me or I had though it was.
Forum Wars was fun because it shows that a platform is only as good as the forum that backs it. I encourage you to read the thread we have on it on msf. With less than half the time 8thcivic had to get ready, we found a car, a driver, raised $3000 for mods, flew the driver and transported the car in and some local guys put on the mods in a matter of 2 weeks. We only have 10,000 members to their 80,000 members, so it was cool to see who has the "better" forum. Yea, we bicker, cuss, whine, have fun at others expense, but in the end we're a tight knit group that can pull it together quickly when needed. You guys should try it next year, it's fun.
Keep an eye out for Mazdaspeeds sporting a "FYHN" sticker
I know they're a lot more Florida MS3's than there are here in Georgia. I'm sure there would be someone willing to run you if you posted in that section. We call our regional sections: "Nator *state*". If the MS3 loses, we'd give him a lot of **** about it, if you lose, same result lol.
Yes! This is one of the members I was looking for!
Correct, he does live in Co, I'm going to bet the air density played a part as well. From what I gathered, Trifecta is not as amazing as it has been made out to me or I had though it was.
Forum Wars was fun because it shows that a platform is only as good as the forum that backs it. I encourage you to read the thread we have on it on msf. With less than half the time 8thcivic had to get ready, we found a car, a driver, raised $3000 for mods, flew the driver and transported the car in and some local guys put on the mods in a matter of 2 weeks. We only have 10,000 members to their 80,000 members, so it was cool to see who has the "better" forum. Yea, we bicker, cuss, whine, have fun at others expense, but in the end we're a tight knit group that can pull it together quickly when needed. You guys should try it next year, it's fun.
Keep an eye out for Mazdaspeeds sporting a "FYHN" sticker
Correct, he does live in Co, I'm going to bet the air density played a part as well. From what I gathered, Trifecta is not as amazing as it has been made out to me or I had though it was.
Forum Wars was fun because it shows that a platform is only as good as the forum that backs it. I encourage you to read the thread we have on it on msf. With less than half the time 8thcivic had to get ready, we found a car, a driver, raised $3000 for mods, flew the driver and transported the car in and some local guys put on the mods in a matter of 2 weeks. We only have 10,000 members to their 80,000 members, so it was cool to see who has the "better" forum. Yea, we bicker, cuss, whine, have fun at others expense, but in the end we're a tight knit group that can pull it together quickly when needed. You guys should try it next year, it's fun.
Keep an eye out for Mazdaspeeds sporting a "FYHN" sticker
dont ge tme wrong trifecta is awesome with our cars. I just prefer my tuner that i used to have.
it could be a simple mistake.
or it could be a fake dyno sheet. idk


