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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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well down here in new mexico we hardly get snow!
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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My car is pretty decent in the snow
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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City driving is terrible on the stockers. Although I have gotten around fine, you have to be paying attention 100%. Goes back in the garage now, going to look at a truck in an hour! I love it yet hate the snow.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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I was looking at these, would anyone reccomend them?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...t=All&x=37&y=7
best all season performance tire money can buy buddy
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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i wonder how the road noise is for the P6 compare to P-Zero Nero?
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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what is g85?
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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I live in Buffalo and we've gotten some decent amount of snow already and my car holds up awesome. I have 16" Wheels wrapped with Dunlop Graspic's. They are awesome in the snow
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Congrats on going out in the snow on some UHP Summer tires. The cobalt doesn't suck in the snow, our wheels and tires suck in the snow.

You are going to want narrow and M&S rated tires if you get a lot of snow.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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My LT and sedan have no problems in the snow with the stock tires and I live in the Shenandoah Valley.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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I don't know what g85 is, i'd also like to know..

and here in Windsor, Ontario (next door to Detroit), we got some snow right now.. its total bullshit trying to leave work the other day.. it was freaking icecapades for me the whole way home.. what normally takes me 10 minutes took me 25 and i was getting honked at and cut-off.. aah i can't wait till' its' spring so i can blow by those bastards and make them shreek..
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Enhance


I get lots of wheel spin with the snow tires on but i still get up those hills pretty easy.
Just be thankful you're not driving a mini van, those things suck on hills even with winter tires.
My pontiac Montana is better in the snow especially from a stop than the cobalt and on both cars are the same make of winter tire.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
be very careful.
I live in a climate where winter involves regular trips on pure ice with upwards of 1-2 feet of snow before it gets plowed sometimes.

and i can tell you from years of experience that there is 1 type of vehicle in the ditch more than any other....

And its SUV's and 4X4's


and its because it luls you into thinking the road isnt bad. until you realise 4x4 only helps traction....not braking or steering.

but they never learn....ive seen cars pulling 4x4's out of ditches.....
That is called driver error..... we all have four tires to stop and maintain road traction. 4x4 is only good for getting past obstacles the do not allow forward momentum ie - snow, rocks, deep sand. I am very experienced with 4x4's and have to tell you all what this fellow is saying is true.

Driver error = Killed. dont get cocky behind the wheel ever. we can do just the same in dry conditions when pushing it too hard in a corner to go beyound the tires or cars capabilities.

LETS BE CAREFUL OUT THERE...LOL
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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I put my new 215/50QR-17 Dunlop Graspic DS-2s on last week and have had quite a bit of snow this week.

These tires are great in the cold and snow. No tracktion issues.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by veloom
I put my new 215/50QR-17 Dunlop Graspic DS-2s on last week and have had quite a bit of snow this week.

These tires are great in the cold and snow. No tracktion issues.

While braking and already moving I agree. From a dead stop I find these cars not to that great. Do you find the same thing? If not do you have LSD? I dont and I think that is a major problem for me. what do you think.
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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I live in Memphis.
What's "S-N-O-W"?
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Old Dec 7, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Vaughts05ss
What part of ohio are you from. Im from Portsmouth and i live not even a mile from the river. The snow dosent get to bad here. Every once in a while we'll get a good snow and the balt will be sittin in the driveway but not very often.
The "snow belt" is loacted near Cleveland, get tons of "lake effect" snow. "Snow belt" only goes about 50 miles south of lake erie. The Ohio river is just a tad too far away to get lake effect snow, like 200 miles to far south.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 06Orangels
IVe got a base balt.. Im looking forward to the snow..Im in sc right now but ill be back home for a couple of weeks in december.. And man am i going to have fun.. I just hope there is snow on the ground....
Bite your tongue, Jeff
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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This is off topic but 2 people asked about it. G85 is the performance package that was available in 2006 and I believe also in 2005. It consists of the recaro seats and a limited slip differential. I think it was a $1500 option.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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I live in northern Alberta, and this year we have a ton of snow. Last year I bought Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 high performance winter tires(215/45 18) for my stock rims, as I knew I was getting new rims for summer anyway. These tires have pulled me through snow that I actually had to plow with the front end of my car, so bad my headlights actually got coated in snow as the snow flew over my windshield. I have never been stuck, although the LSD may have helped with that.

The only problem is they are a little pricey.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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On the way to work and back (about 80 km each way) I have seen more vehicles in the ditch than any other time in my life. Bottom line is people driving in snow and crashing is usually due to inexperience in these conditions, or not realizing how bad the road actually is. When I get up to speed on a slippery road, I usually like to give the brakes a quick press when no one is around in order to judge the road and what your stopping distance/manuverability will be in the event it is needed.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ssnipes
While braking and already moving I agree. From a dead stop I find these cars not to that great. Do you find the same thing? If not do you have LSD? I dont and I think that is a major problem for me. what do you think.

i don't have LSD and no problems with starting from a dead stop. I was a little skeptical about getting the Dunlop Graspics as I was tossing up the Wintersports and decided to go the cheap route and bought the cheaper tires (dunlop graspic's) and a cheap set of wheels and im very impressed with the tires
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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i bought 16" steelies and kw-19's and have had ZERO traction problems yeah my tires spin a bit but im always moving.

My only beef is our brakes... why does it feel like my brakes are pushing back when im sliding on ice?! (stupid question i bet and itll have a simple answer lol) it just doesnt feel "safe" probably because im not sure if i should take my foot off the brake and try reapplying or just push my brake harder (makes it sound like theres a grinding noise)

Otherwise i love my car
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Apex
i bought 16" steelies and kw-19's and have had ZERO traction problems yeah my tires spin a bit but im always moving.

My only beef is our brakes... why does it feel like my brakes are pushing back when im sliding on ice?! (stupid question i bet and itll have a simple answer lol) it just doesnt feel "safe" probably because im not sure if i should take my foot off the brake and try reapplying or just push my brake harder (makes it sound like theres a grinding noise)

Otherwise i love my car
its a thing called ABS brakes.....
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SS_Ry
its a thing called ABS brakes.....
lol i figured thats what it was (never had it in my other cars)
so how do i respond to it? just push the brakes harder?! lol
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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I'm running 16" BFG Traction T/A's on my LT, and drove home yesterday on a snow-covered, icy road with no problems. I had my doubts about a small FWD car, especially coming from a 4x4 truck, but in some situations the Cobalt is actually more sure-footed than my trucks were... You just have to use common sense.

A couple others mentioned seeing more 4x4's than cars in the ditch- I have noticed this also. People think that because they have 4-wheel-drive, they can just go barreling down the road and nothing can stop them... What they don't realize is, those big rigs may 'go' better, but they don't stop any better! It isn't the be-all end-all that people think it is. Sure, my S10 with 31" BFG All-Terrains would go anywhere in deep snow. But throw a layer of ice under it, and I was just as helpless as the guy in the Civic. It all comes down to common sense, having the right equipment, and using it wisely. Get a decent set of snow tires or even good all-season tires, and be careful- you'll do fine.
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