The problem every one is having.
Thread Starter
New Member
Joined: 12-12-06
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From: Orlando
The problem every one is having.
The problem every one is having is the tune to get 20-25 extra HP and no TQ.
If you do not do a tune and use the MAFT and the 42 LB you can run 2.6 pulley and 3 colder plugs with water/Meth injection and run 270 HP and have a good runing car. Also using the MAFT can easly run 60 LB injectors if you need to. 20-25 HP and 500 RPMS is not worth the trouble of tuning and blow motors. You get a adverage of 6-7 HP from each LB of boost with no tuning. 42.5 LB injectors are good for 260 HP At 80%DIC 2.6 pulley with stock tune is 18.5 lbs at 6500 RPMS 6 Extra LBS is about 42 flywheel HP safely. 205 Stock HP + 42 =247 FLY wheel HP. Water/Meth adds 15-20 HP
247+15+ Total 262 FLy Wheel HP.
If you do not do a tune and use the MAFT and the 42 LB you can run 2.6 pulley and 3 colder plugs with water/Meth injection and run 270 HP and have a good runing car. Also using the MAFT can easly run 60 LB injectors if you need to. 20-25 HP and 500 RPMS is not worth the trouble of tuning and blow motors. You get a adverage of 6-7 HP from each LB of boost with no tuning. 42.5 LB injectors are good for 260 HP At 80%DIC 2.6 pulley with stock tune is 18.5 lbs at 6500 RPMS 6 Extra LBS is about 42 flywheel HP safely. 205 Stock HP + 42 =247 FLY wheel HP. Water/Meth adds 15-20 HP
247+15+ Total 262 FLy Wheel HP.
One problem, the stated 205 crank power is underrated from most peoples dyno's on here. If that's the case, you're still exceding the duty cycle of the injectors.
Can you explain what the MAFT does?
Can you explain what the MAFT does?
Senior Member
Joined: 03-01-06
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 1
From: Westchester, New York
The problem every one is having is the tune to get 20-25 extra HP and no TQ.
If you do not do a tune and use the MAFT and the 42 LB you can run 2.6 pulley and 3 colder plugs with water/Meth injection and run 270 HP and have a good runing car. Also using the MAFT can easly run 60 LB injectors if you need to. 20-25 HP and 500 RPMS is not worth the trouble of tuning and blow motors. You get a adverage of 6-7 HP from each LB of boost with no tuning. 42.5 LB injectors are good for 260 HP At 80%DIC 2.6 pulley with stock tune is 18.5 lbs at 6500 RPMS 6 Extra LBS is about 42 flywheel HP safely. 205 Stock HP + 42 =247 FLY wheel HP. Water/Meth adds 15-20 HP
247+15+ Total 262 FLy Wheel HP.
If you do not do a tune and use the MAFT and the 42 LB you can run 2.6 pulley and 3 colder plugs with water/Meth injection and run 270 HP and have a good runing car. Also using the MAFT can easly run 60 LB injectors if you need to. 20-25 HP and 500 RPMS is not worth the trouble of tuning and blow motors. You get a adverage of 6-7 HP from each LB of boost with no tuning. 42.5 LB injectors are good for 260 HP At 80%DIC 2.6 pulley with stock tune is 18.5 lbs at 6500 RPMS 6 Extra LBS is about 42 flywheel HP safely. 205 Stock HP + 42 =247 FLY wheel HP. Water/Meth adds 15-20 HP
247+15+ Total 262 FLy Wheel HP.
Senior Member
Joined: 03-01-06
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 1
From: Westchester, New York
Senior Member
Joined: 01-17-07
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
I am confused and all....shouldnt you run 60LBD injectors and the bolts for the pistons are only rate at 250hp but the engin itself is rated at 350-400. If I am wrong then please correct me but this is what I found after doing some reaserch on the LSJ.
New Member
Joined: 09-16-05
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: Pennyslvania
ha ha...not to burst your bubble but it is possible...you can adjust how much boost you want to run with the HP Tuners software...either that or a manual boost controller...so the supercharger is still spinning at the crazy rpms it does but the bypass valve controls how much boost you run...i don't know about you guys but im seeing about 13.5 to 14 pounds of boost on my stock pulley. what you do is go into supercharger torqe management of the software and it goes by percentages. 100% is full boost 90% is lowered boost and so on and so forth... i have mine adjusted 70% in 1st which is about 10 psi so i don't spin ridiculously hard and then full on 100% in 2nd...so it is possible
Senior Member
Joined: 06-06-06
Posts: 2,729
Likes: 9
From: O Fallon, MO
This is the most ridiculous thread I have ever read.
1. Adding meth injection does not give you horsepower. You have to TUNE to adjust your timing to see any HP gains from using meth.
2. Even with meth injection to prevent detonation you are STILL going to be WAY lean with 42 lbers and a 2.6 and will be losing a ton of power in the upper RPM band. If you don't want to tune your car for fear of it blowing up, then don't do mods that require tunes.
1. Adding meth injection does not give you horsepower. You have to TUNE to adjust your timing to see any HP gains from using meth.
2. Even with meth injection to prevent detonation you are STILL going to be WAY lean with 42 lbers and a 2.6 and will be losing a ton of power in the upper RPM band. If you don't want to tune your car for fear of it blowing up, then don't do mods that require tunes.
Senior Member
Joined: 01-17-07
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
This is the most ridiculous thread I have ever read.
1. Adding meth injection does not give you horsepower. You have to TUNE to adjust your timing to see any HP gains from using meth.
2. Even with meth injection to prevent detonation you are STILL going to be WAY lean with 42 lbers and a 2.6 and will be losing a ton of power in the upper RPM band. If you don't want to tune your car for fear of it blowing up, then don't do mods that require tunes.
1. Adding meth injection does not give you horsepower. You have to TUNE to adjust your timing to see any HP gains from using meth.
2. Even with meth injection to prevent detonation you are STILL going to be WAY lean with 42 lbers and a 2.6 and will be losing a ton of power in the upper RPM band. If you don't want to tune your car for fear of it blowing up, then don't do mods that require tunes.
You spray a mix of distilled water and methanol into your engine. Helps stop detonation and raises your octane higher due to the methanol. Now the snow performance kit that IU use has a progressive controller that runs off your MAss air flow signal. Convert the HZ to volts and then has a map it sends to the controller on when to turn on and when to go to full spray. I have been running this setup on my car for a while, still on stock internals and about 21000 miles on it now. 0 problems cept for the pretty blue color of the inside of the intake manifold. (lol washer fluid) Now for the nitro booster. It's a mix of nitro methane that will stay in suspension with the methanol. If used properly you can gain @30+hp from it. I use it in a bit less of a mix myself to stay a little safer, but the car ran great on it and I could tell the difference.
I'm old school
Joined: 02-16-05
Posts: 6,905
Likes: 3
From: Nashville
Oh boy...
First, everybody be nice. We were all noob once.
Second, to the poster, most people ditched the MAF-t about a year ago when HPT came out. And put a bigger pulley on before you break ****.
First, everybody be nice. We were all noob once.
Second, to the poster, most people ditched the MAF-t about a year ago when HPT came out. And put a bigger pulley on before you break ****.
Thread Starter
New Member
Joined: 12-12-06
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From: Orlando
you guys are so funny I have had 4 blower cars and 3 turbo cars. I have built cars for racing lol first of all you can run 2.6 with 42.5 injectors if you do not tune and increase the timing. If your addding just boost you do not see a big gain per lb of boost. Second you get HP from meth/water because it cools the air and allows for the computer to adjust more timing and help with detenation. Third the car does not dyno 220 to the wheels stock lol.. If the car is dyno correctly the car only dynos 175 to 180 to the wheels. If you dyno higher than that stock the person operating the dyno is not setting it up for 4.05 gearing in the transmission or it a old dyno jet wore out. I have 2 dyno in my shop and most dyno arounf 180 to the wheels. If you get a stock dyno higher some one is messing with your head. dyno jet will show high if not setup right for gearing in the software.
Mustange dynos are nice or even better a G tech reads a true HP great for tuning.
Mustange dynos are nice or even better a G tech reads a true HP great for tuning.
Senior Member
Joined: 01-13-05
Posts: 3,150
Likes: 0
From: Philly burbs
you guys are so funny I have had 4 blower cars and 3 turbo cars. I have built cars for racing lol first of all you can run 2.6 with 42.5 injectors if you do not tune and increase the timing. If your addding just boost you do not see a big gain per lb of boost. Second you get HP from meth/water because it cools the air and allows for the computer to adjust more timing and help with detenation. Third the car does not dyno 220 to the wheels stock lol.. If the car is dyno correctly the car only dynos 175 to 180 to the wheels. If you dyno higher than that stock the person operating the dyno is not setting it up for 4.05 gearing in the transmission or it a old dyno jet wore out. I have 2 dyno in my shop and most dyno arounf 180 to the wheels. If you get a stock dyno higher some one is messing with your head. dyno jet will show high if not setup right for gearing in the software.
Mustange dynos are nice or even better a G tech reads a true HP great for tuning.
Mustange dynos are nice or even better a G tech reads a true HP great for tuning.
for all the stuff you have "owned" and "have"
you dont know what your talking about
Thread Starter
New Member
Joined: 12-12-06
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From: Orlando
Also meth drops you specific Brake fuel requirements because the meth is acting as a fuel.
If you guys do not belive me thats ok Its just simple math and some times testing.
I am just giving the facts.
If you guys do not belive me thats ok Its just simple math and some times testing.
I am just giving the facts.
Last edited by qchadf; May 29, 2007 at 09:07 AM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
