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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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i traded my balt in on a evo 9. i love it .i dont know alot about the sti's, but i do know that the evos are easier to work on.I still have alot of respect for the balts.if i wouldn't have got such a good deal on the mitsu, i would still be driving mine.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
Well said on both your parts. =) To Evolve are the 06-07 Impreza's still hard to mod like that?
Well, unfortunately I am not extremely familiar with the new 2.5s, but if its anything like the EJ25, yes its a p.i.t.a.!!!
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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because 06 and newer ones have mi-vec or whatever they call it, some sort of variable valve timing and i am told the evos benifit greatly from this new valvetrain. my friend with an 05 has told me many times that 03s and 04s are considerably slower stock. he also seems to not emphasize enough how important a tune is for the evos. he says he witnessed an evo lose 30whp after adding a cold air intake. anyway here is a message he sent me

"Yeah the reflashes are the most necessary mod to the cars to be honest. If an EVO has cams, exhaust, yada yada but is untuned, it will be as fast as a stock one tuned. My car dyno'd 250whp stock, then added cams and full exhaust and dyno'd 288whp... then the tuner came and flashed it... 344whp. Since then I added some more mods and got flashed again. I have not been to the track.

Im not suprised you beat an EVO from a roll (especially 03-04s). The 2005s are much quicker and I dont know if you know anything about the 2006s but a couple have hit 11.90s with intake, exhaust & a flash. "

YES! Tuning is key!!! I have cams, tbe, intake, mbc, meth injection(27psi...), and a few other goodies and w/out a tune I was running too rich and only making about 300whp. Now I am tuned and making 400whp. It does make a differance
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Get the evo. They are much better cars. They are faster stock and will remain faster mod for mod.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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the stroker kit you have lowers compression or raises it?
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ggarcia86
the stroker kit you have lowers compression or raises it?
lolz, I dont have it...yet. But with a stroker kit you can request higher or lower compression based on your needs. Most N/A cars go lower comp due to boosting properties.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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Well, I own an EVO and have a best friend that owns an STi, so heres my take on this comment and my own opinion, after all these are all opinions. You obviously like STis, which, I do as well. But have you ever tried to change a downpipe on one? Or even a turbo swap? Ok, ok how about something simple, like an up pipe? If not, I suggest you try first, then get an EVO and do the entire exhaust. Or, put cams in it. I did, for both the STi and EVO and I know for a fact that the EVO is far easier to mod than the STi, so if you are trying to go fast, get an EVO(if $$$ is your concern). But you dont have to do the work yourself, try taking it to a shop. Youo will die at the price of labor people charge for the STi, its insane. I agree with you on the interior, the EVOs is dull, but the recaros do have a tremendous amout of lower back support, compared to the STi, but you have been in both, so you should know that. Ive spent about $2 grand and am making over 400whp safely. Try that on an STi... In the end both cars are amazing and I love them both, but the EVO is for me. Hope you make a good choice!

ease to work on and build quality are not related.

I have changed a uppipe and downpipe on an STI. It's time consuming, but not hard. The worst and most retarded part is jacking up the engine for the uppipe. It took us like two hours to figure that out. After that it was a breeze. I haven't swapped a turbo yet nor will I ever most likely because my friend seems happy with his hp.

I agree both are good cars and if you get the regular old evo or even the RS I think it balances the two cars out but the MR is pricey for no real reason. The benefits of the MR over the regular Evo or the STI aren't worth the price in my opinion.

I'm glad you like your Evo and I am glad you are running big ponies with no problems. I hope you get many many more miles out of it. Good luck to you and be safe.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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I have always thought the EVO MR was a little overpriced really considering you are getting a turbo economy car with AWD. They are rather cheaply made too. If I had to drop 35k on a tuner car I would get an STi and have some money left over for mods. Plus I think they are better built cars. Honestly though for the price I'm not buying either. If the EVO floats your boat though go with that. It's clearly quicker then the Cobalt, it mods well, and all the ricers will bow to you like you are some kind of God of tuning because you bought the most expensive of all the econobox tuners. You'll never get that last one with the Cobalt.

Most importantly though, get whatever you want and enjoy it. Don't look back,and don't regret it.
I love the way you throw out false information without providing any source of proof to your statement. You've probably never even seen an Evo, let alone driven one. There's a reason the Evo is one of the most expensive cars to insure, and it's not because they're cheaply made. And you say that if you had $35K to drop on a tuner car, you'd buy an STi and use the rest for mods.......bad decision bruh. Pulling HP out of an Evo is by far more inexpensive and relatively easier than that of the STi. And in my opinion, the MR is over priced considering the only real benefit is the 6spd which if you're a drag racer, it's really not a benefit at all. Nevertheless, with the amount of money you'd have to put into Cobalt to achieve the level of performance offered by the "econobox tuners", you'd of been better off purchasing the econobox in the first place.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ggarcia86
its a tough call, b/c alot of ppl with evo's will laugh at our cars, but with a couple mods our cars are faster, cheaper, and cheaper to insure. i recommend sticking with the cobalt for having no turbo lag and being pretty damn quick, but if you want to not have traction issues and have a car with more potential and dont have to worry about insurance or car payments. which ever one that leaves you with no regrets is the one for you. but deff dont get an evo older than an 05. and dont get bolt-ons without a tune.
you sir must be outta your mind. And I can tell any statments your making is coming from the fact that your racing a stock EVO 8 vs a modded cobalt from a 40 and up roll on a highway. Cause even a first gear roll would have a cobalt taking a loss while its looking for traction or playing cathch up till up in the "insane illegal" speed range of 120+ mph. Last time i check the fastest cobalt runs what a 12.8 on slicks. About 60-70% of the total evo8-9's made from 03 and up are good to match or **** on that time. And if your argument is " the evo is 10K more than us" look at the srt-04 We can't even hold a candle to the srt-4 once they start heavy modding and going super stock TD04, 16G, 50 trim, 60-1, GT35R. So how you figure we can begin to talk smack about the evo. The Evo may be a more exspensive car but you also get what you pay for And the Srt-4 was a cheaper car and you got more than what you paid for performance wise so where does that leave us.....

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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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go with the evo. its way faster right out of the box and the new ones are sick.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by EVILutionVIII
I love the way you throw out false information without providing any source of proof to your statement. You've probably never even seen an Evo, let alone driven one. There's a reason the Evo is one of the most expensive cars to insure, and it's not because they're cheaply made. And you say that if you had $35K to drop on a tuner car, you'd buy an STi and use the rest for mods.......bad decision bruh. Pulling HP out of an Evo is by far more inexpensive and relatively easier than that of the STi. And in my opinion, the MR is over priced considering the only real benefit is the 6spd which if you're a drag racer, it's really not a benefit at all. Nevertheless, with the amount of money you'd have to put into Cobalt to achieve the level of performance offered by the "econobox tuners", you'd of been better off purchasing the econobox in the first place.

Where did I present false info? I'm not a drag racer so the 6spd doens't mean a thing to me. except for it probably gets better hiway milage. I also didn't buy my Cobalt to go racing or to get big horsepower out of so don't assume I did. You don't know me at all so don't assume things about me. I would never try to get 400hp out of a FWD car but that's just me, if people want to do that then fine. It's thier car and their money, I hope they have fun doing it and more power to them.

I love how you took offense to my statements, tried to run down my car and tried to discredit me by saying I have probably never seen an Evo. It shows you are significantly biased towards the car and don't approach things with an open mind. I'm not sorry if my opinion somehow offends you because it's my opinion, take it with a grain of salt. This thread wanted opinions and I gave mine. It's too bad you can't be like evolve and be more level headed and not get so butt hurt when someone questions your car. Come over to this side of the fence man. It's the side where we can discuss cars in a civilized manner and not get our feelings hurt when men discuss, not argue, about cars. The grass really is greener over here because it's just car guys talking cars. Try it you might like it.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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if u want an evo i suggest you get it now as they wont be around much in the next few months until 2008 when the X comes out

and NO THERE ISNT AND NEVER WILL BE AN 07 model

jesus do some research...
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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if u want an evo i suggest you get it now as they wont be around much in the next few months until 2008 when the X comes out

and NO THERE ISNT AND NEVER WILL BE AN 07 model

jesus do some research...

Ha yes there will be, there already in production, it might not be for long but there is an 07 coming out. I was talking to owner of the mitsu dealership wear good friends with and he go notified there already making them. But im probablly just going to keep the balt and mod it out. After school i want to buy myself a mini condo or house or somthin. But thanks for all the oppinions guy!
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Get what you want, you only live once. That's how I get my wife to let me put money into my car
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Ha yes there will be, there already in production, it might not be for long but there is an 07 coming out. I was talking to owner of the mitsu dealership wear good friends with and he go notified there already making them. But im probablly just going to keep the balt and mod it out. After school i want to buy myself a mini condo or house or somthin. But thanks for all the oppinions guy!

CMW is correct, no '07 model for the Evo. Mitsu has begun for the production of the X so no more new IX's will be made. Mitsu dealerships might recieve a last shipment of the '06 IX Special Edit. and that's it til the release of the X
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Blk06CobaltSS
Ha yes there will be, there already in production, it might not be for long but there is an 07 coming out. I was talking to owner of the mitsu dealership wear good friends with and he go notified there already making them. But im probablly just going to keep the balt and mod it out. After school i want to buy myself a mini condo or house or somthin. But thanks for all the oppinions guy!
your an ignorant stupid ****

i work at a mitsu dealership there is no 07 model

2jzpower, thank you

and your right dealerships have (some might not have) receive their last shipment of IXs
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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your an ignorant stupid ****

i work at a mitsu dealership there is no 07 model

2jzpower, thank you

and your right dealerships have (some might not have) receive their last shipment of IXs
baby momma drama
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Well i have no idea, just saying what the dealership said. He could be incorrect, But iv decided to just keep on modding the balt anyway. Than get an appt, condo ect. type thing when im out of school, thanks for the oppinons though...
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Well i have no idea, just saying what the dealership said. He could be incorrect, But iv decided to just keep on modding the balt anyway. Than get an appt, condo ect. type thing when im out of school, thanks for the oppinons though...
seriously im not trying to get on u or anything like that but it just frustrates me to hell when ppl say "OYEA THERE IS GONNA BE AN 07 EVO" its just soo annoying

but i have no idea why the dealership would tell u that maybe their just completely out of the loop or something i dunno but there wont be an 07 model

gl with modding the balt ~
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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EVO!!!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Damn some people on here can be arrogant and rude. Since Blk06CobaltSS is like a cousin of mine, and I know that he just turned 17 last month, I expect him to ask questions for the input of people on the site about different cars. Yes, he pays for his own damn car too before we even go there. At the age of 16 he purchased his a new Cobalt SS Supercharged as a first ride, and I must say that I wish I had the money to do so when I was his age. Anyway, I appreciate that fact that some people are willing to provide factual information in their posts, but it's really getting aggrivating with all the negativity on the site. I mean people get all over everyone for making a slight mistake or if they were provided incorrect info. from someone.

My opinion on the EVO is that it is definitly a great car to mod. Power can be had easily from its proven 4G63T. The AWD will be a lot better in the snow during the winters since you are located in NH. Mitsu's do have a reputation for being somewhat unreliable, but that seems to have gotten better over the past few years.

My opinion on the STI is that it is definitly a great car to mod as well. It's on par with the EVO all the way. Power can be had just as easily, but Subarus tend to need ECU tuning every time a part is added because of the ECU's extremely sensitive to change. They also require a more meticulous approach when it somes to modding them. The AWD once again will be great in the winter time. Subarus have a known reputation for weak transmissions, but the STI has a fairly stout box. Consumer Reports has rated the WRX line a top pick, and given them good reliability ratings as well.

I personally favor the STI because I like the looks of it better, and I absoultely love that boxer rumble. I have seen some clean examples of stock block 400-500awhp STI's around where I'm stationed, and they are just simply awesome cars.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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seriously im not trying to get on u or anything like that but it just frustrates me to hell when ppl say "OYEA THERE IS GONNA BE AN 07 EVO" its just soo annoying

but i have no idea why the dealership would tell u that maybe their just completely out of the loop or something i dunno but there wont be an 07 model

gl with modding the balt ~

Well sorry man, they prob just messed up or somthin...maybe talking about the last few 06s? i dunno, thanks though.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Damn some people on here can be arrogant and rude. Since Blk06CobaltSS is like a cousin of mine, and I know that he just turned 17 last month, I expect him to ask questions for the input of people on the site about different cars. Yes, he pays for his own damn car too before we even go there. At the age of 16 he purchased his a new Cobalt SS Supercharged as a first ride, and I must say that I wish I had the money to do so when I was his age. Anyway, I appreciate that fact that some people are willing to provide factual information in their posts, but it's really getting aggrivating with all the negativity on the site. I mean people get all over everyone for making a slight mistake or if they were provided incorrect info. from someone.

My opinion on the EVO is that it is definitly a great car to mod. Power can be had easily from its proven 4G63T. The AWD will be a lot better in the snow during the winters since you are located in NH. Mitsu's do have a reputation for being somewhat unreliable, but that seems to have gotten better over the past few years.

My opinion on the STI is that it is definitly a great car to mod as well. It's on par with the EVO all the way. Power can be had just as easily, but Subarus tend to need ECU tuning every time a part is added because of the ECU's extremely sensitive to change. They also require a more meticulous approach when it somes to modding them. The AWD once again will be great in the winter time. Subarus have a known reputation for weak transmissions, but the STI has a fairly stout box. Consumer Reports has rated the WRX line a top pick, and given them good reliability ratings as well.

I personally favor the STI because I like the looks of it better, and I absoultely love that boxer rumble. I have seen some clean examples of stock block 400-500awhp STI's around where I'm stationed, and they are just simply awesome cars.

hey thanks bro, appreciate it. bernie did tell us about the "07's" being made before the evo x but he must have been screwed up or somethin. He told us that last time we were there. But ya i was debateing on the evo or sti, but my dad convinced me to keep saving and buy an apartment or something after school instead of buying another car. Now that i think of it, its an excellent idea. Thanks again though, later bro.
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