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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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Yes you can get a new cobalt ss/sc with stage 2 for less than $22,000. I got my new 2006 SS/SC Fully Loaded, all options for ~$20,500. Although I did have the GM Supplier discount, but one can still be had for around 21, 000 if you don't get all the options.
They are talking in Canada, don't know where MO is but Im guessing not canada. And you can't get a brand new SS S/C with stage 2 for 23,000 unless there is some massive sale, discount or it's used.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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lol, He asked if there were any cars similar in price that were faster and I answered. Its not a big deal, but it is the truth. Just cause mopar offered a stage 3 and GM hasnt answered the call just yet doesnt mean you have to get butt hurt. Who cares about 0-60 anyways, 1/4 mile times are the new 0-60. ****, some of you modded cobalts cant stop spinning up to 60, I think taht is because some are running the Driver Stage Douchebag.
Actually, I think he meant new. SRT-4s are hard to come by new.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Well this went from a What's our 0-60 thread to a ss/sc vs. srt-4 thread real quick hah?

Anyway, that 5.5 0-60 time seems about right and that's not bad at all.

As far as what's faster stock for stock and stage 2 for stage 2 in regards to an ss/sc and an srt-4, the srt-4 is a little faster. But the guys that bought the ss/sc already knew that and purchased the ss/sc for looks and other little things. Not the .10 sec difference.

I like the srt-4, it's quick it's just a matter of taste.

Lets extinguish the flame!
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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I don't usually get involved in faction fights but the following comments needed to be addressed.

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Sup p7x, oh yeah the Neon SRT-4 is definately a like it or hate it, but the caliber looks like a turd I squeezed out this morning, but hey when a 350 whp Caliber flies by *insert cheap sportscar here*, most will say: "Thats one fast ******* turd"
Does the Neon/SRT/Caliber still fall over if you try and corner above 40km/h?

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lol, He asked if there were any cars similar in price that were faster and I answered. Its not a big deal, but it is the truth. Just cause mopar offered a stage 3 and GM hasnt answered the call just yet doesnt mean you have to get butt hurt. Who cares about 0-60 anyways, 1/4 mile times are the new 0-60. ****, some of you modded cobalts cant stop spinning up to 60, I think taht is because some are running the Driver Stage Douchebag.
No. Slalom and autocross are the new 0 to 60. Anyone with a budget and a lot of ***** can build a 0 to 60 cannon, but if you want to compare actual performance then the first one to 60 is not always the first one across the finish.

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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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BTW, I thought most sites had the SS/SC 0 to 60 listed at 7.1 to 7.4 seconds?

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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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i hate posting in threads like this, but i just felt compelled. Isn't the 350 hp Caliber rated at the flywheel? So what is it at the wheels? Also, the Caliber looks like a rebadged Vibe. Not cool. And everyone that has an ss/sc couldve bought a NEON srt4 but decided that we couldnt fall asleep at night knowing that a ******* four door family sedan NEON was in our driveway
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Does the Neon/SRT/Caliber still fall over if you try and corner above 40km/h?
Wow some just dont seem to get this thread and thats ok. The thread was about 0-60 and speed for price. I dont know when the cornering was an issue in this thread.
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No. Slalom and autocross are the new 0 to 60. Anyone with a budget and a lot of ***** can build a 0 to 60 cannon, but if you want to compare actual performance then the first one to 60 is not always the first one across the finish.
Again another issue that needs to be addressed. Slalom and autocross are great, but some how you got lost when you went from straightline to cornering. Yes you can build a 12 sec 5.0 for less than a 9000 dollars or whatever, but we were comparing factory cars with factory stage kits. Very true about finishing first just look at a suburu wrx, might be first to 60 but good chance you can take him before the 1/4 is over. So Im sorry you didnt understand the discussion, but we were talking about straightline and factory kits. Maybe the topic title isnt big enough to read
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sethallen
i hate posting in threads like this, but i just felt compelled. Isn't the 350 hp Caliber rated at the flywheel? So what is it at the wheels? Also, the Caliber looks like a rebadged Vibe. Not cool. And everyone that has an ss/sc couldve bought a NEON srt4 but decided that we couldnt fall asleep at night knowing that a ******* four door family sedan NEON was in our driveway
Im sorry you felt compelled to post about something else, yes everyone thinks the caliber is ugly, but that wasnt the point. The ignorance is strong in this one.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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the NEON is ugly too
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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the NEON is ugly too
yes, yes it is....
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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ok im glad we're all on the same page
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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ok im glad we're all on the same page
next page, Its a good thing you got the Cobalt for looks because you certainly didnt get it for speed.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pOrk
Wow some just dont seem to get this thread and thats ok. The thread was about 0-60 and speed for price. I dont know when the cornering was an issue in this thread.

Again another issue that needs to be addressed. Slalom and autocross are great, but some how you got lost when you went from straightline to cornering. Yes you can build a 12 sec 5.0 for less than a 9000 dollars or whatever, but we were comparing factory cars with factory stage kits. Very true about finishing first just look at a suburu wrx, might be first to 60 but good chance you can take him before the 1/4 is over. So Im sorry you didnt understand the discussion, but we were talking about straightline and factory kits. Maybe the topic title isnt big enough to read
The topic title was the (COBALT) STAGE 2 0 TO 60.

I seem to have grasped this, even if I did have to sound out the big words like zero and to. You are the one who came in and introduced the OT part, so I figured that it was open season on flying turds and other 4 door abortions.


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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pOrk
next page, Its a good thing you got the Cobalt for looks because you certainly didnt get it for speed.
You seem to love to make these mistakes. Last I checked, when a SRT got over a certain speed it was, as a friend once said, like trying to make love on a greased wakeboard in choppy water. So far I have had this "slow" Cobalt to over 260 and had no issues at all.

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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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I want to have sex w/ an srt-4. DAMN THEY'RE NOT SWEET LOOKING BUT I WANT MORE SPEED SHITT
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by l Sh1ft l
I want to have sex w/ an srt-4. DAMN THEY'RE NOT SWEET LOOKING BUT I WANT MORE SPEED SHITT
FTW

I love when these typical srt-4 vs cobalt ss conversations start, no one wants to dispute which is faster, but they jump all over that looks and handling department. Good avoidance.
On a side note

I want to have sex w/ a |Sh1ft|. DAMN HES NOT SWEET LOOKING BUT I WANT MORE.....SHITT
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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FTW

I love when these typical srt-4 vs cobalt ss conversations start, no one wants to dispute which is faster, but they jump all over that looks and handling department. Good avoidance.
On a side note

I want to have sex w/ a |Sh1ft|. DAMN HES NOT SWEET LOOKING BUT I WANT MORE.....SHITT
Sorry, until proven otherwise you can only out-accelerate me, you can't out top-end me. Nor can you out-perform me on anything other than a quartermile.

Faster = get there first. You win in ONLY one category. I win in all the rest. That makes me faster than you.

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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by pOrk
FTW

I love when these typical srt-4 vs cobalt ss conversations start, no one wants to dispute which is faster, but they jump all over that looks and handling department. Good avoidance.
On a side note

I want to have sex w/ a |Sh1ft|. DAMN HES NOT SWEET LOOKING BUT I WANT MORE.....SHITT
lol i'm not sure if your post was sarcastic? haha mine wasn't though, I really want to drive an srt-4
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pOrk
FTW

I love when these typical srt-4 vs cobalt ss conversations start, no one wants to dispute which is faster, but they jump all over that looks and handling department. Good avoidance.
What? Com'mon look at every other post with srt4 in it I think you will find your debate about which is faster 100 times over. But I can see why Cobalt owners argue handling and looks, what do srt4 owners do when someone make fun of their neon, "it's faster than you". It works both ways. If I wanted to go stupid fast and didnt care about anything else i would have bought an srt4. Good thing I considered the other 10 factors or so
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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pOrk you say we start talking about other things like cornering and skidpad when SRT-4 guys talk 1/4 mile.

Well with equal drivers and conditions the SRT-4 slightly edges a SS/SC, who gives a **** thats with perfect driving.

96% of the SRT-4 owners I come accross couldn't drive a Z06 to a 14 second 1/4. And spend more time making excusses and if's than anything else.

I would consider handling, braking and skidpad numbers pretty important when comparing sports cars but SRT-4 guys think otherwise.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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What? Com'mon look at every other post with srt4 in it I think you will find your debate about which is faster 100 times over. But I can see why Cobalt owners argue handling and looks, what do srt4 owners do when someone make fun of their neon, "it's faster than you". It works both ways. If I wanted to go stupid fast and didnt care about anything else i would have bought an srt4. Good thing I considered the other 10 factors or so
thats a great point, also stock for stock the srt is slightly faster, it just so happens that they upgraded stage kits especailly stage 3 really gets that sucker moving, so you can say both cars are bought for speed, its just that the neon has more options to make it go faster, who fricken cares anyways, i had a guy in a 400 horsepower srt-4 come up to me and ask me a bunch of questions about my car, a really cool guy, he was actually bitching cuz all the lag he got until 4 grand and told me id probably crush him through the first 2 gears, after that its a different story, i couldnt care less if a stage 3 srt is faster than my stage 2 ss with mods cuz at the end of the day i look at both cars and am pleased with my car and its performance. and its not like none of us havnt beaten an srt, come on its not impossible lol, to each their own.
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Sorry, until proven otherwise you can only out-accelerate me, you can't out top-end me. Nor can you out-perform me on anything other than a quartermile.

Faster = get there first. You win in ONLY one category. I win in all the rest. That makes me faster than you.

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Resistance is futile. Thank you for conceding to the facts. I owned a Saturn Redline and it handled 101001X better than the neon. The cobalt is a great looking car. Looks is preference, but the cobalt is an all around better car. Im not arguing that. I dont even own a Neon, Note to self, change sig. This conversation was about that ONE category. Thank you for playing.
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pOrk you say we start talking about other things like cornering and skidpad when SRT-4 guys talk 1/4 mile.

Well with equal drivers and conditions the SRT-4 slightly edges a SS/SC, who gives a **** thats with perfect driving.

96% of the SRT-4 owners I come accross couldn't drive a Z06 to a 14 second 1/4. And spend more time making excusses and if's than anything else.

I would consider handling, braking and skidpad numbers pretty important when comparing sports cars but SRT-4 guys think otherwise.
Thats great and all, but we weren't talking about all that. Im glad 96 percent of SRT owners cant drive to save their life. I would consider those things too, but we were not talking about those things. Please hang your hat at the door and stay a while, I'll get your helmet.....
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by p7x
What? Com'mon look at every other post with srt4 in it I think you will find your debate about which is faster 100 times over. But I can see why Cobalt owners argue handling and looks, what do srt4 owners do when someone make fun of their neon, "it's faster than you". It works both ways. If I wanted to go stupid fast and didnt care about anything else i would have bought an srt4. Good thing I considered the other 10 factors or so
Agreed, but I didnt turn the tables about it being faster because that was the original discussion, it was the SS guys that got off track about the other things. Some cobalt guys are insecure about the speed of their car. Always trying prove something. Its a fast car so stop worrying, not directed at you.
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Agreed, but I didnt turn the tables about it being faster because that was the original discussion, it was the SS guys that got off track about the other things. Some cobalt guys are insecure about the speed of their car. Always trying prove something. Its a fast car so stop worrying, not directed at you.
Agreed as well, tons of ppl are insecure about what they have and I not just talking about cars.

It's the never ending belief that what you have is better than everyone elses, is what starts the arguements. Im not talking about you personally but everyone.



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