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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 01:04 AM
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Stage 3 SC

Im just wondering if any one has a stage 3 sc and what they have in it.. pulley size, belt,heat exchanger ect. and how it is whp and where you got it all from... and tune you got... Im looking to move up and just wondering how it is and how much you paid.

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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 01:10 AM
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zzperformance and there is another website to my minds blank at the moment lol, but yeah ive been looking into getting this as well, zzperformance is 60# injectors,heat exchanger(different stages),2.8 pulley(or 2.7 if you have exhaust so it says), shorter belt, and a reflash of the ecu(or for $125 more they will ship you the new ecu and when u send yours back you get your $125 back) pretty sur thats all of it ill get you the link


https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...1055&catid=143
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 01:23 AM
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Mine had the intense racing stage 3 package. With Alchohol injection and the CX Racing Heat Exchanger. Never got dyno'd so I couldn't tell you the power
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Im just wondering if any one has a stage 3 sc and what they have in it.. pulley size, belt,heat exchanger ect. and how it is whp and where you got it all from... and tune you got... Im looking to move up and just wondering how it is and how much you paid.

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Stage 3 SC is kind of vague .... there is a GM Stage 3, ZZP Stage 3, OTT Stage 3, Intense Stage 3, CA Stage 3. What one are you looking for ? I have GM Stage 3, and my mods are listed in my sig.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 02:18 AM
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Well i wasnt really sure im just shopping right now, and looking to see who has the best.. if its all gm. or if its more of a mix.. like zzp has. and what kind of gas mileage you guys get... And what about the tune? Thanks... And Your armrest wher did you get it and how much? ive been looking i hate not having an arm rest haha
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 02:22 AM
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www.ottperformance.com has good stage kits so does zzp .. are you looking to keep warranty
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 02:24 AM
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I dont have any warrenty any more 58000 miles.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 02:35 AM
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Go with ottp stage 2 ( http://www.ottperformance.com/store/...-2-Kit-4p6.htm ), they have one of the best kits available and most people on this forum will back that up. You will want to add atleast a heat exchanger for cooling, also you should get an interceptor if you don`t already have one.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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Well i wasnt really sure im just shopping right now, and looking to see who has the best.. if its all gm. or if its more of a mix.. like zzp has. and what kind of gas mileage you guys get... And what about the tune? Thanks... And Your armrest wher did you get it and how much? ive been looking i hate not having an arm rest haha
I love GM Stage 3, and all the features it provides (Adjustable Rev Limiter, High Octane Mode, Nitrous). The only down side of GM Stage 3 is you loose your A/C, but that is soon to change thanks to Vince at Trifecta. He is working on unlocking the A/C. I usually get 24mpg around town, and 32-33mpg on the highway. I bought my armrest from CED (Crate Engine Depot).
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 01:33 AM
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The oTT stage 2 is that pretty close to gm stage 3? i have gm stage 2 as of right now. what would gains and losses be from OTT

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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 02:27 AM
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OTTP stage 2 will be faster then GM stage 3 especially if you get a custom tune although from what I have read the tune that comes with it is pretty good. Ill have mine on in a few days and I have GM stage 2 right now so I can let you know the difference in powerwhen I get it installed.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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Sweet. and le me know if theres any downfalls to it? are you going to get a custom tune or stay with the one you get ?
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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Ill be staying with the tune that comes with it for a while, I dont have HPTuners and I dont know anyone that has it so.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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K nice, What exactly is an intercepter?
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 04:39 AM
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Its a scan gauge that displays different parameters like intake air temps , knock , injector duty cycle etc. http://www.ottperformance.com/store/...uge-63p552.htm , gives a pretty good description of it there. If your going to get into modding your car its pretty much a must have.
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Originally Posted by ziggity
OTTP stage 2 will be faster then GM stage 3 especially if you get a custom tune although from what I have read the tune that comes with it is pretty good. Ill have mine on in a few days and I have GM stage 2 right now so I can let you know the difference in powerwhen I get it installed.
Some what true.... OTT Stage 2 will not be faster than a GM Stage 3 car that is spraying. It will also be a very good race between a OTT Stage 2 vs. a GM Stage 3 car on high octane mode. Is OTT Stage 2 a better deal as far as price/ what you get ?? You bet !!! Also, OTT Stage 2 retains your A/C, but that is soon to change for us GM Stage 3 guys
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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This Stage 3

Im seriously thinking about buying this stage 3...what else would I need to buy for my 2005 SS/SC for this to work?

Also where can I buy injectors since it looks like this set doesn't come with them?
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This Stage 3

Im seriously thinking about buying this stage 3...what else would I need to buy for my 2005 SS/SC for this to work?

Also where can I buy injectors since it looks like this set doesn't come with them?
That is the Stage 3 I have (GM Stage 3). If you buy the kit as a whole from Crate Engine Depot it will come with almost everything you need. You will need to buy some fittings for the dual pass endplate, but Crate Engine Depot sells all of that to, and lists what you need. Also, if you want to run nitrous you have to purchase the leads for it, but once again Crate Engine Depot has those for sale as well.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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i have an 07 ss/sc and i would like to keep my factory warranty... the gm stage 3 voids your warranty while the gm stage 2 does not, correct?
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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i have an 07 ss/sc and i would like to keep my factory warranty... the gm stage 3 voids your warranty while the gm stage 2 does not, correct?
Correct, but GM Stage 3 only voids your factory warrenty if they detect you have it. The nice thing is you can keep your GM Stage 2 PCM, and swap out the Stage 3 PCM when you go to the dealer for warrenty work. Most dealerships don't know the dif. pulley sizes, and the GM Stage 3 & GM Stage 2 pulleys look identical.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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I love GM Stage 3, and all the features it provides (Adjustable Rev Limiter, High Octane Mode, Nitrous). The only down side of GM Stage 3 is you loose your A/C, but that is soon to change thanks to Vince at Trifecta. He is working on unlocking the A/C. I usually get 24mpg around town, and 32-33mpg on the highway. I bought my armrest from CED (Crate Engine Depot).
not so sure...sounds like only if there is enough support for it. which currently there is few....
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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not so sure...sounds like only if there is enough support for it. which currently there is few....
I know .... but at least there is hope now vs. what it was like a few years ago.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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I have this want for a 07 ss/sc still and fully gut it with a gm stage 3. so I'd love to see this. Although taking out the ac is always a option.
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I have this want for a 07 ss/sc still and fully gut it with a gm stage 3. so I'd love to see this. Although taking out the ac is always a option.
it would be a beast !!
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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light weight helps more than most think! I would of bought the TA ss but its "not street legal" and with no vin, total lame. I wanted to get that thing on the street and show some hondas what was up

07 ss/sc tvs sc with a stage 3 w/ custom tune would be ****.
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