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Old 11-16-2013, 09:51 AM
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thinking of removing lift to reverse.

So, never been a fan of lift to R. Replacing the shift boot, and while in there thinking about removing my reverse lift by cutting out the plastic the hits the wall. What are you're thoughts on this.
Old 11-16-2013, 10:06 AM
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Base models dont have it. Go for it lol
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Why would you want to do that?
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Probably accidentally puts it in 4th to back up
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Well it's sort of there so you don't blow it up by accidently shifting into reverse when deriving down the road.
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Originally Posted by mr bill
Well it's sort of there so you don't blow it up by accidently shifting into reverse when deriving down the road.
Like i said, my car doesnt have it. The transaxle wouldnt go into reverse if you tried it moving forward faster than a few miles an hour. Reverse blocker wouldnt be able to clutch the speed unless you waited like 10 seconds to shift. Even sitting still, if you try to go from 5th to reverse, it moves you over to 4th.
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Right, manual cars didn't have things to block reverse for decades. It's unnecessary for someone that knows how to drive.
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I always tell people who ride in my car to try to shift into reverse and they can't figure it out
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You need it there or it makes the shift to 5th almost impossible. The plastic piece is what keeps the shifter from going too far right.

It's a none issue in the first place. What is the problem with lifting the release?
Old 11-16-2013, 07:23 PM
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you have to be really trying to get the car into reverse while driving forward at anything above a few mph
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It bothers you that much that you find it necessary to remove it?
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ive seen them tear the shift boot when it gets caught between the lockout and the bracket, its unnecessary for 90% of drivers...
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I'll say it again. The piece also keeps the shifter from going too far right when shifting into 5th.

Suck it up.
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Without the lift up to reverse you will be able to slide it right from 5th into reverse of your trying to downshift into 4th.

Pretty stupid to remove it when it's such little effort to lift up on the shifter...
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It serves a purpose. Without it we'd have the Cobe's of the world shifting into reverse thinking it's 6th.
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Originally Posted by cluelessk
I'll say it again. The piece also keeps the shifter from going too far right when shifting into 5th.

Suck it up.
what pattern does your car have that you can *gasp* go too far to the right when shifting to 5th, OMG why dont all cars have a lockout so they dont go too far to the right when going to fifth. Someone alert all the manufactures in the world that going too far to the right poses a threat to the transmissions health. I should take my daily back to the dealership and have one installed on my car because someone made a mistake somewhere... *******

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Without the lift up to reverse you will be able to slide it right from 5th into reverse of your trying to downshift into 4th.

Pretty stupid to remove it when it's such little effort to lift up on the shifter...
so your transmission allows you to just slide smooth as butter from 5th to reverse? holy **** batman, something is wrong inside your transmission already! like ive already stated, do you have any clue how much force it takes to force your shifter into reverse from 5th at 30-40mph? I would be willing to bet that you would sheer off the roll pins or snap a cable before you could get it into reverse.

OP, if you want to remove it then remove it, it serves no real purpose other than being a nifty little trick to fool your friends and if anything to keep it from accidently sliding out of reverse while backing up.
Old 11-17-2013, 12:25 AM
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Actually you can go too far right for 5th and it wont let you get the gear. My buddy has it removed on his. Also has 1st lockout removed (not sure how that is though)

Reverse is straight cut so you grind the gear if you tried to shift into reverse even with the clutch in.
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Originally Posted by BlkWdoSS
what pattern does your car have that you can *gasp* go too far to the right when shifting to 5th, OMG why dont all cars have a lockout so they dont go too far to the right when going to fifth. Someone alert all the manufactures in the world that going too far to the right poses a threat to the transmissions health. I should take my daily back to the dealership and have one installed on my car because someone made a mistake somewhere... *******
Did you not understand my post?

Why would you want to deal with having to take the time and effort to find fifth each time?
Also why put the extra stress on your shift cables? They're already shitty enough as it is. It's a pain in the ass and a unnecessary distraction.

If OP is having such an issue with having to pull up the release he probably has a bigger issue. Something is worn or out of adjustment.

I had issues with my reverse lockout because it wore down from failing shifter cables.
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i hav hurst shifter in mine and it eliminates reverse lockout but still hav the pull up mechanism for some reason....i jus shift into reverse with pulling up
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Originally Posted by BlkWdoSS
what pattern does your car have that you can *gasp* go too far to the right when shifting to 5th, OMG why dont all cars have a lockout so they dont go too far to the right when going to fifth. Someone alert all the manufactures in the world that going too far to the right poses a threat to the transmissions health. I should take my daily back to the dealership and have one installed on my car because someone made a mistake somewhere... ******* so your transmission allows you to just slide smooth as butter from 5th to reverse? holy **** batman, something is wrong inside your transmission already! like ive already stated, do you have any clue how much force it takes to force your shifter into reverse from 5th at 30-40mph? I would be willing to bet that you would sheer off the roll pins or snap a cable before you could get it into reverse. OP, if you want to remove it then remove it, it serves no real purpose other than being a nifty little trick to fool your friends and if anything to keep it from accidently sliding out of reverse while backing up.
When the cars not moving yes it slides right in. Can't say I've ever been dumb enough to try putting it in reverse while moving at all.
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You have nothing moving to stop you from putting it in reverse at that point, like nhanson said a moment ago, even if you get it close to reverse it will grind and alert you that you are about to screw up, even with the clutch in

Clueless, Ive never failed a shifter cable, it appears you had a bigger issue such as the adjustment clamps on your cables were out of spec. The cables are stronger than you are giving them credit for, its the adjustments that will screw you. A lot of ppl had issues when they swap to TWM upgraded clamps and never got them adjusted properly.

Ive driven manual transmission cars since I starter driving 15yrs ago, and I have never had an issue missing 5th by pushing too far to the right, I even took my car out and tried to miss 5th and couldnt do it last night. I put the car in neutral while driving, shoved the shifter right until it wouldnt go any further and shoved it up and it found 5th no problems. Same thing with the wifes redline and a friends Saab 9-3 turbo, all have the same shifter/cables.
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Like I said a cable was stretched. I fixed it and installed a BPS sts.

You still don't seem to grasp the concept that the little piece of plastic that you need to lift to get into reverse also limits the movement to the right when finding fifth.

Would you want to hunt for fifth each time or just push up and to the right like normal?
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If it isn't broke then don't fix it.
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Originally Posted by cluelessk
Like I said a cable was stretched. I fixed it and installed a BPS sts. You still don't seem to grasp the concept that the little piece of plastic that you need to lift to get into reverse also limits the movement to the right when finding fifth. Would you want to hunt for fifth each time or just push up and to the right like normal?
Shifter probably isn't adjusted properly...
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So still you are saying that the corvette, lamborghini, ferrari, porsche, honda, acura, nissan, toyota, mitsubishi, ford, subaru, mazda, smart, BMW, MB, etc owners are all out there driving around hunting for 5th gear because no one other than the engineers that designed the cobalt ever predicted this problem?

In that case you 2 should keep them on your cars because you really might accidently put it in the wrong slot. Since neither of you apparently know anything about transmissions or cars or driving in general, Ill just give up. I see why everyone keeps selling their cars, they are trying to get away from stupid ppl like you.


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