Torque and HP
11-29-2006, 07:55 PM
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Torque and HP
okay...i spose this is more for all cars and not just cobalts, but w/e
i thought of something a while back and havent really thought of an answer yet, so maybe you guys can tell me here...
if HP is directly based upon TQ (in that HP=TQ*RPMs/5252), then why would a car have a maximum torque at 4000RPMs but a max HP at 5500RPMs....shouldnt the graphs of each be directly proportional?
i thought of something a while back and havent really thought of an answer yet, so maybe you guys can tell me here...
if HP is directly based upon TQ (in that HP=TQ*RPMs/5252), then why would a car have a maximum torque at 4000RPMs but a max HP at 5500RPMs....shouldnt the graphs of each be directly proportional?
11-29-2006, 11:58 PM
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try the formula man, they meet at 5252
the hp rating all depends on torque, so if at 5252 torque is a little lower than at 5200, means that his max hp. Some cars cant make max hp before 5252, like a diesel for example!
the hp rating all depends on torque, so if at 5252 torque is a little lower than at 5200, means that his max hp. Some cars cant make max hp before 5252, like a diesel for example!
11-30-2006, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by XenSS06
Torque can drop off and still have higher hp because rpm keeps goin up which is part of your equation.
11-30-2006, 12:19 AM
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Torque can vary on how the engine was designed to make power and when. The HP just shows the "work" that is capable of being done with the torque (or turning power) that the engine produces.
A truck engine for example makes most of its torque in the lower rpms to allow it to be able to tow/haul heavy loads.
Sports cars are lighter and go for torque on the top end to produce more high rpm power for acceleration.
A truck engine for example makes most of its torque in the lower rpms to allow it to be able to tow/haul heavy loads.
Sports cars are lighter and go for torque on the top end to produce more high rpm power for acceleration.
11-30-2006, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by XenSS06
Torque can drop off and still have higher hp because rpm keeps goin up which is part of your equation.
11-30-2006, 12:51 AM
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haha no worries man, we all have to learn sometime!! Look it up on the web, some websites are very good at explaining this stuff, just be carefull and not read those bias websites, some are bias somehow on explaining this stuff!! haha I couldnt beleive it when i read a bias website on explaineing this stuff!! Bias in the sence that they said hp was more important than torque, when in reality HP is just an equasion. What u what is the longest and straightes torque curve possible!! This way you car can pull hard and long in a gear, and when shifting, your car will have a higher rev and make more power!!
11-30-2006, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
wow...i feel retarded....and now i have to go to my physics teacher n make him feel retarded as he didnt know either....
11-30-2006, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by martinsmu
haha no worries man, we all have to learn sometime!! Look it up on the web, some websites are very good at explaining this stuff, just be carefull and not read those bias websites, some are bias somehow on explaining this stuff!! haha I couldnt beleive it when i read a bias website on explaineing this stuff!! Bias in the sence that they said hp was more important than torque, when in reality HP is just an equasion. What u what is the longest and straightes torque curve possible!! This way you car can pull hard and long in a gear, and when shifting, your car will have a higher rev and make more power!!
How many times has this been brought up??? I LOVE IT!
1. http://www.micapeak.com/bike/FJR1300...que-power.html The Best!
2. http://vmaxoutlaw.com/tech/torque_hp.htm
3. http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html
4. http://www.allpar.com/eek/hp-vs-torque.html
5. http://www.procivic.com/pages-horsep...que/index.html
There is 5 sites that say HORSEPOWER is more important, I can find more if you would like. Please find just one site that actually explains things out and says TORQUE is more important in accelerating and remember we are not talking about towing or tractor pulls.
11-30-2006, 02:32 AM
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There is 5 sites that say HORSEPOWER is more important, I can find more if you would like. Please find just one site that actually explains things out and says TORQUE is more important in accelerating and remember we are not talking about towing or tractor pulls.
There is 5 sites that say HORSEPOWER is more important, I can find more if you would like. Please find just one site that actually explains things out and says TORQUE is more important in accelerating and remember we are not talking about towing or tractor pulls.
11-30-2006, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
well...time to show your ignorance...we were both wrong when arguing earlier, but i admit it....torque and HP are directly proportional based on RPM....so theres really no clear winner
11-30-2006, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by elmstreet
if an automatic 2.4 ss can beat a 06 civic si then horsepower obviously is not more important lol
11-30-2006, 02:53 AM
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how did you come to that conclusion?
if your HP is high, its either because your TQ is high, or your RPMs are high, the former of the two being better as you'd get a flatter HP curve
thus: HP is jointly protortional to TQ and RPMs
11-30-2006, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
HP=(TQ*RPM)/5252
if your HP is high, its either because your TQ is high, or your RPMs are high, the former of the two being better as you'd get a flatter HP curve
thus: HP is jointly protortional to TQ and RPMs
if your HP is high, its either because your TQ is high, or your RPMs are high, the former of the two being better as you'd get a flatter HP curve
thus: HP is jointly protortional to TQ and RPMs
ok I thought you were saying HP and TQ were inversly proportional to each other because of the RPMs
11-30-2006, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
HP=(TQ*RPM)/5252
if your HP is high, its either because your TQ is high, or your RPMs are high, the former of the two being better as you'd get a flatter HP curve
thus: HP is jointly protortional to TQ and RPMs
if your HP is high, its either because your TQ is high, or your RPMs are high, the former of the two being better as you'd get a flatter HP curve
thus: HP is jointly protortional to TQ and RPMs
I would still like to see how I am wrong by saying HORSEPOWER is more important though.
11-30-2006, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by god+1
Why when a needle sized hole is plenty of room?