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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 03:47 PM
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Actually a ton of people care...like the ones who buy those kind of cars and go to autocross and road racing events. That's why they buy them over a cobalt among many other reasons.

The 90% (the ones who don't care, and I'm willing to bet it's much less than 90%) only street race to compensate for their severe lack of driving skills.

Yes the time attack cobalt did very well, but still didn't come even close to the other 2 cars in this video, and neither would the cobalt in this video.

the butt hurt is strong in this one
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 04:06 PM
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Ok so now youre saying that the handling capabilities of the time attack balt dont matter because these cars are faster in a straight line.
Nowhere did I say anything remotely close to that. Can you read? Those cars handle way better than any cobalt no matter what you did to it, and that will always be the case. Show me a cobalt that pulls more g's than a GTR or Zr-1. It does not exist, and never will. It's FWD, the CG is way too high, the body weight distribution is horrible, it has non-adjustable single trailing arm suspension in rear, the front suspension is hardly even adjustable, and you can't fit **** for tires in the wheel wells. It's just not possible.

How the hell could I be butt hurt if I own a freaking cobalt? There is no rationality in that statement. I accept reality for what it is. Sounds to me like you are butt hurt that you can't drive and that all you have is a cobalt lol.
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 11:13 PM
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U own a cobalt and come on here beating ur chest and your keyboard. The thread has nothing to do with how many g's a car can handle. What does it matter what anyone drives ?? Obviously we drive cobalts its a cobalt forum dip ****. And claiming anything outside of the specifics of this thread its just absurd. If u wana get hard over how many g's a car can handle go make a thread about it and get buck wild.
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SaberD
How fast a car can accelerate in a straight line is only considering about 10% of what the vehicle is capable of. Take it to a real race course to see what the cars can do, and that cobalt would be horribly embarrassed. Then there is the visual comparison... well there really is no comparison lol.

That is why a GTR costs 80K.

Thank you and goodbye.
GTR's start at over $100k now.
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SaberD
How fast a car can accelerate in a straight line is only considering about 10% of what the vehicle is capable of. Take it to a real race course to see what the cars can do, and that cobalt would be horribly embarrassed. Then there is the visual comparison... well there really is no comparison lol.

That is why a GTR costs 80K.

Thank you and goodbye.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SaberD
Actually a ton of people care...like the ones who buy those kind of cars and go to autocross and road racing events. That's why they buy them over a cobalt among many other reasons.

The 90% (the ones who don't care, and I'm willing to bet it's much less than 90%) only street race to compensate for their severe lack of driving skills.

Yes the time attack cobalt did very well, but still didn't come even close to the other 2 cars in this video, and neither would the cobalt in this video.
I forgot racing only meant you have to drive on a track with turns my bad. I'm sticking with 90% cause everyone mods there cars to go fast in a strait line. I'm not just looking at just cobalts I'm looking at all cars bud. If you buy a zr1 or gtr or any car most will build it to go fast strait cause they drive them on the street. I'm not going to build a handling car just to be a DD or a weekend car. Most people in the car community only care about how fast the car is not how well it turns. I'm not hating on people who go to tracks and build nice handling cars. But that's there preference. I'm just stating what most people do.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 12:51 PM
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the whole point of this thread/video is to show a cobalt walking a gtr in a straight line from a roll, not to bring up "oh well if they were going into turns it'd be different." gtfo lol if they were worried about who was faster in the turns, they would've been at a road course or auto-x event, not a roll race event
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 01:01 PM
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Even if it was an autox event, I would still put my money on the Cobalt . The GTR is big and heavy. It might do great on fast road tracks, but it's going to get walked by a 150 hp miata at an autox event.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 02:46 PM
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You guys are right. I brought us way off topic. Was just saying there are many justifiable reasons for why those cars cost a lot more. Also, the last time I saw a gtr at an autox, it got 2nd fastest time of the day behind a stock c5z06 with koni shocks, and there must have been 20+ miatas there. Although I have to say, there was also a guy who got 2nd in state in RTF the previous year who had a stock base model mazda 3 that blew away tons of guys with super fast cars. That guy with the crappy mazda deserves some real respect. That's how you really embarrass someone with a faster car. He actually did something himself, not simply relying on a machine to make him go fast. That's what I call a real personal achievement.

There is no real achievement in street racing in a straight line. If you win a race, you did basically nothing to win it. All the work was done by your car. Also, the cobalt in this video won't last longer than 10 or 15k miles before it needs a full engine rebuild. That's nothing to be jealous of when the guy with the zr-1 will rack up 200k with only routine maintenance. You can modify a 1985 ford escort or even a school bus to beat a zr-1 in a straight line too. I know you guys get a hard-on because it's a cobalt, but in reality it can be done with any car you want. It's nothing special.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 03:26 PM
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who cares if he needs a motor rebuild in 10-15k? thats also not the point of this thread. also, if you plan to mod your car and expect nothing to ever go wrong or need replaced you're an idiot. more maintenance comes with more racecar. and if the car does all the work in a straight line, aim your car down a straight road, turn it off, leave the keys in the ignition and tell me how fast it gets to 60 without a driver in it. your argument is 100% invalid, even straight line racing requires driver skill, you're probably just saying that because you've never won a straight line race. im sensing some unresolved internal issues....
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 03:54 PM
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Eventually when you grow up, you will learn that it's not about who HAS better this or better that. It's about who IS better. Society has taught you to value material objects over yourself. That is exactly the unresolved issue here. I've resolved every issue I've had in my life like a boss, and I'm a huge success because of it. I don't need a car that goes faster in a straight line than someone else to make me feel good. If you want to talk personal philosophy, I will school you all day long.

Also, I'm sorry, but if you honestly think that street racing requires even 5% of the skill it takes to go around corners, then I really don't care what you have to say, because that is straight ignorance talking.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 04:04 PM
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i didnt say it required a certain percentage of dick, you did, please dont put words in my mouth ma'am. and i also didnt say i cared about my car being faster in a straight line than anyone elses, i make my car faster in a straight line for me because thats what i like. idk about you, but during my daily commute, i do a lot more straight line driving than i do mountain curvy roads. however, if its a competition of racing on a curvy road, i assure i have no problem doing that either. And lastly, please do not make assumptions about driver skill when you dont even know the person you're talking too, just makes you look funny.

going fast in a straight line gives me an adrenaline rush and i love it, going fast in the turns doesn't give me the same feeling, but i can do it just as good if not better than most. always fun making a hyundai genesis look super slow compared to my sonic on the tail of the dragon xD
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 04:06 PM
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anyways, at the end of the day. I would take a gtr or vette over the balt

but shows the cobalt can be rather quick.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
Because you spent 80k and lost to a car worth 5k
5k? yes Im sure his car and mods are $5k.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jHarris8822
i didnt say it required a certain percentage of dick, you did, please dont put words in my mouth ma'am.
Oh really now? I said that? Nice quote. Here I am quoting you putting words in my mouth. Way to be a hypocrite.

Originally Posted by jHarris8822
going fast in the turns doesn't give me the same feeling
Talk to any seasoned racer, and they will tell you the complete opposite. Following any sort of logic, taking fast turns is far more dangerous, and could have much more severe consequences than going in a straight line. Therefore, the act of taking a fast turn creates more adrenaline because it is way more dangerous, and requires extreme focus. You are not going to get an adrenaline rush if you take turns like a grandma. This leads me to believe you are driven by fear just like most people who are too scared to go around turns. That's precisely why they prefer straight line racing. You just gave yourself away.

Comparing straight line racing with road racing or autocross is like comparing a children's coloring book to the Sistine Chapel.

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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Havok_Cobalt
5k? yes Im sure his car and mods are $5k.
Go look up the value of an lsj cobalt on kelley blue book. Mods do not add value.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SaberD
Oh really now? I said that? Nice quote. Here I am quoting you putting words in my mouth. Way to be a hypocrite.



Talk to any seasoned racer, and they will tell you the complete opposite. Following any sort of logic, taking fast turns is far more dangerous, and could have much more severe consequences than going in a straight line. Therefore, the act of taking a fast turn creates more adrenaline because it is way more dangerous, and requires extreme focus. You are not going to get an adrenaline rush if you take turns like a grandma. This leads me to believe you are driven by fear just like most people who are too scared to go around turns. That's precisely why they prefer straight line racing. You just gave yourself away.
That i have to agrees with it much harder and i get more out of taking a turn at high speed than just going in a straight line. Although i havent done much racing in a straight line and it still pretty exciting. but taking a turn is awesome specially when you brain is yelling you brake and you keep going.

But either way anyine here woukd take a gtr ot vette over any cobalt. But i still love the cobalt no matter what
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
Go look up the value of an lsj cobalt on kelley blue book. Mods do not add value.
really? that's what you wanna base your argument on now? the worth? not how much sticker is or mods? ok.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 05:26 PM
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Because you spent 80k and lost to a car worth 5k
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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I forgot racing only meant you have to drive on a track with turns my bad. I'm sticking with 90% cause everyone mods there cars to go fast in a strait line. I'm not just looking at just cobalts I'm looking at all cars bud. If you buy a zr1 or gtr or any car most will build it to go fast strait cause they drive them on the street. I'm not going to build a handling car just to be a DD or a weekend car. Most people in the car community only care about how fast the car is not how well it turns. I'm not hating on people who go to tracks and build nice handling cars. But that's there preference. I'm just stating what most people do.
Definately agree with you. I like to take some spirited turns but i bought my car to accelerate fast and mod it to do so faster mostly, brakes and suspension are secondary, which purists would argue me for but its how i think most people go about it. We only do suspension to look lower and have cool brakes lol
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 03:31 AM
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Definately agree with you. I like to take some spirited turns but i bought my car to accelerate fast and mod it to do so faster mostly, brakes and suspension are secondary, which purists would argue me for but its how i think most people go about it. We only do suspension to look lower and have cool brakes lol
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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His at 120k miles or around there and its been turbo for like 3 or 4 years still going strong on stock block



Originally Posted by SaberD
You guys are right. I brought us way off topic. Was just saying there are many justifiable reasons for why those cars cost a lot more. Also, the last time I saw a gtr at an autox, it got 2nd fastest time of the day behind a stock c5z06 with koni shocks, and there must have been 20+ miatas there. Although I have to say, there was also a guy who got 2nd in state in RTF the previous year who had a stock base model mazda 3 that blew away tons of guys with super fast cars. That guy with the crappy mazda deserves some real respect. That's how you really embarrass someone with a faster car. He actually did something himself, not simply relying on a machine to make him go fast. That's what I call a real personal achievement.

There is no real achievement in street racing in a straight line. If you win a race, you did basically nothing to win it. All the work was done by your car. Also, the cobalt in this video won't last longer than 10 or 15k miles before it needs a full engine rebuild. That's nothing to be jealous of when the guy with the zr-1 will rack up 200k with only routine maintenance. You can modify a 1985 ford escort or even a school bus to beat a zr-1 in a straight line too. I know you guys get a hard-on because it's a cobalt, but in reality it can be done with any car you want. It's nothing special.
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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His at 120k miles or around there and its been turbo for like 3 or 4 years still going strong on stock block
I guess it all depends on how you drive it.
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 09:30 AM
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Soeaking if how you drive it, you gotta admit this guy drove very well in this vid. I have a friend making 420 whp who has trouble getting into the 12s. I make 300 and cant get below 13.6. Driving these cars is a pain! All the gtr does is floor it and his his paddle.
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Old Mar 6, 2015 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by riceburner
Soeaking if how you drive it, you gotta admit this guy drove very well in this vid. I have a friend making 420 whp who has trouble getting into the 12s. I make 300 and cant get below 13.6. Driving these cars is a pain! All the gtr does is floor it and his his paddle.
Lol precisely why I wouldn't want a GTR. It takes a lot of the experience out of driving the car since they basically drive themselves.
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