Hey guys I'm in the process of shopping for a ss s/c with the performance package. Basically I'm going around to see what kind of prices I can get for an ss s/c w/ the g85. Tonight basically the main salesman said that he could get me invoice for the car which he said was 22,500ish. I'm looking to go even lower than that if possible without any kind of trade ins, or deals (just the paper price of the car).

I guess my question is: Was he just shitting me (im pretty sure he was) about how he couldn't go below invoice of the car?


Sorry I know this is taboo subject "use the search" blah blah, but wondering if i could get any insight as to how low I could get this guy down to? It is listed at about 23,400 and I plan to buy it straight out, no financing.

thanks in advance

 

well paying in cash is often a disadvantage in price neog. They can make money on the fianancing so they perfer you get a loan.

 

If the list is 23,400, I would think that you could get them down to around 21,500 if you really work at it.

 

Here in california, i got my fully loaded ss/sc with g85 for 22k out the door! u need to be demanding... and also know who runs the dealership.

 

go though the whole deal telling him you are going to finance it then after the deal is all set and he wants your down payment...pull out your check book...my grandpa just did it a few years ago and got a 2004 honda accord ex w/ the upgraded wheels and interior brand new for 17,200. just give that a try

 

What he said. Or just finance it and pay it off with your first payment. You're more likely to get the deal you want that way. Best of luck!

 

If you do that sometimes they hit you with a penalty because they are not making their interest.

 

If its an '06 just finance it for 0% APR for 72 months assuming you can qualify. Why waste your money all on the car now and not use it for mods or other things. At the least you can do that and then on the first month or whatever pay most of it off and then use the rest for mods and then pay the rest off in a few months.

 

Very, very rare on car loans. That's something that's more common on 1st and 2nd mortgages. It's also something that has to be disclosed to you by law before signing the loan, and most dealers not only offer financing through dozens of banks, but they also have no idea which bank will finance you when you sign the paperwork. They'll send it out to bank after bank until it gets approved at the deal they set up for you. That's why it's so uncommon.

 

either way im not looking to finance so that won't be a problem. I don't plan to really mod it for the first two thousand, or so, miles anyways. After the first 2k miles I should have enough back in the back to think about S2, intake, and maybe an exaust system. I really am starting to get anxious about this though. I just want it now, but I don't want to jump into a bad deal. I need a good deal or else ill be pissed I bought it when I did. Well at least until the throttle makes me forget.

so you guys think I can get the guy down to 21500 before taxes and with no other rebates? Or do you think more? The head guy there said 22500, which he said was invoice (and by my calculations it is 400 dollars above invoice).

either way, thanks to all who provided input, and thanks to those who refrained from getting P.O.ed at another "price" thread.

 

after researching the car i found out a few things


dealer said car invoice was 22500

from cheverolet.com and kbb.com i figured out that the cars invoice is actually 21,375

this is a 1,125 difference....salesmen **** me off...


any thoughts?

 

Does the 22500 include freight and all the other charges?

 

I'm feeling the same way. The other day I was talking to a salesman about a price on an 06 fully loaded SS/SC (G85,XM,Onstar,Sunroof,sub) and he told me 22,337.25 OTD. I liked the price but wasn't signing or agreeing to anything w/o checking insurance (i'm 19 male,single,no kids, ready to get raped on insurance basically) and I also told him I'd be financing through my dads credit union but he kept pushing the 6.9x in my face. Turns out 0% started the next day and I know he knew it, ass was trying to push me into the car so he'd get a few extra bucks.

 

You can get the invoice price in advance from edmunds.com - print it out and have it with you - then make the dealer show you HIS invoice. If he refuses, OR if its different, walk.

 

He keep pushing that in your face because that is probably better than your credit union. Also depending on what time of day it was the salesman may not of know about the 0% interest. Its not like we know years ahead of time. Oh and yes Im a salesman too which is why I said we in the last sentence.

Also the way it works at my dealership is this: it doesnt matter what you finance or the apr money wise to us. What does matter is that you finance at our dealership in which case we get a few extra dollars and I litterally mean just a few. Its not much and definitly not a deal breaker to us. Also we get a flat fee for every car we sale. For instance I could sell an Aveo and I will get $200 or I could sell a Z06 and I will get $200. I know other dealerships are different but dont hate on the salesman because he may of just been trying to help you out but then again he may be an ******* and may deserve your ranting.

 

Just because edmunds.com has invoice at a certain price doesnt mean its correct either. Just like kelley blue book always gives inflatted prices on used cars. The invoice price we pull up is the invoice price coming straight from GM not edmunds.com.

Which do you think is more reliable?

 

Sorry to go a little of topic, but how available are ss/sc in the USA? I went to a dealer in calgary today and I guess there is none in alberta. and I would have to factory order an 07' which I may not even get

 

****, my dealer offered me that, and i didnt even ask for it. I wanted a 1ss that was at another dealer, but when i got to the shop the dealer said it couldnt be shipped in b/c they just sold it. so he was tring to get me to buy a 2ss. he said, i will try to get the price of the 2ss down to the price of the 1ss. he came back with a 23,500 sssc marked down to 21,500. it had xm, sumroof, and side airbags. i thought it was a kick ass deal,(even though it didnt match the 18,000 car i wanted) especially on top of the 0% apr, but its not what i really want. so I turned it down and said, "later, thanks for letting them sell my car".

so you could try going in wanting to buy a 1ss that they do not have or no one else has around, and see if they can get you up to a 2ss.

 

Alright I am a server and you have to look at it this way he isn't trying to rip you off just trying to maximize his time, when I get tipped 15% on bills i am angry b/c i personally bust my ass to make sure my customer had the time of their life in my resteraunt( I work at a 4 star steak house/wine cellar) and I am assuming he is doing the same for you. I got my car for not .01 more than what it cost the dealer b/c I know someone but for your average joe they try to make 5% otherwise what is their incentive to go to work. But also you are trying to get the most of your money however if he kept trying the 6.9 and he knew the next day it was going to be 0% that is dick but then again i was not there so i don't know exactly what happened. Good luck be prepared to get raped in the ass by insurance i pay almost 400 a month.

 

This is exactly how I got my truck:

I went it and demanded a certain montlhy payment w/ 0 down being upside down 10k on my Cobalt. They told me the only way I would come close to what I wanted would be to get a base model V6 regular cab silverado. From there I told them there is no way I would trade in my Cobalt for that crap, so I demanded my set payment w/ 0 down on a 5.3l work truck. They told me the only way I would get what I wanted payment wise on a 5.3l WT was to put down $500. I laughed and said no way and said I would take my business elsewhere.

I went to another dealership and demanded the same thing and they basically told me I was crazy. Well while I was at the 2nd dealership the sales guy from the 1st dealership called me and asked if I was at another dealership. I used this to my advantage and said these exact words "Yes I am at another dealership getting the truck I want for the price I want, I will be signing the paperwork shortly." There was a pause and then he said "why don't you come back here and we can work something out on that work truck?" I basically told him that that is ridiculous and that I was getting a loaded Sierra regular cab for the monthly payment I wanted (remember this is all complete bull). Then the turning point happened over the phone when he said "Come on back here man, we'll get you the truck you want at your payment". So I drove back to the first dealership and got to dealin. I picked out the truck I have now and said "I want this one". This time they told me OK, and then we discussed the price of the truck vs. what I wanted to pay a month. They wanted $31,000 for my truck (it was stickered at $28,000) in order to cover me being upside down $10,000 on my Cobalt. I told them "no sorry, I appreciate you trying to help me but it's just not going to work out." They told me to hold on and they went and did the whole "let me talk to my manager" thing. After speaking to six, yes six different people up the chain of command I had gotten my payment down to what I wanted and the truck for $28,400 the door including GAP insurance, tax title and license, and a 100,000 warranty. Keep in mind there were no rebates on the Silverado like there are now.

I spent 10 hours at the dealership that day and got the following:

-Negative equity of $10,000 reduced to $400. with not a cent down.

-Got APR financing of 3% for 72 months.

-Payments dropped $120 less a month for an 06 LT Silverado vs. my SS/SC

Some things that I found that helped me a lot:

-I knew exactly what each item on the truck was and how much I should be charged for it. (for example, they told me that the "appearance package" which is a color matched lower bumper, the 17" fake-chrome wheels, and slightly tinted windows was worth almost $2k...no way sir)

-I knew roughly what the dealership paid for the truck through consumer reports so I worked on negotiating UP from that price.

-I was very polite and curteous. Just firm about what I wanted. I garauntee that if you act like a jerk, they're not going to be willing to help you out. But at the same time DO NOT go in there with out researching the car and knowing EVERYTHING about it. The sales guy will be pretty intimidated when you know more about what HE is selling. It'll work to your advantage, believe me.

 

I'm quite sure he was aware of the 0% (or maybe he was an uninformed ass) being that I told him a few times when I went in that I wasn't going to buy today b/c there was a lot I needed to check on (insurance being one) but he was very adament that THIS rate (like 6.9% or something) was the best I would get (they hadn't even ran a credit check yet) and buggin me to buy today.

Actually one of the salesmen up there is a good friend of my dads brother, but when we got there we didn't know he was still working there. As far as "not .01¢ more" than it's worth I should be in the same boat. My dad works at the local GM plant "fairfax" (malibu and new saturn aura) so there isn't any negotiating on the vehicle price with his discount.

The only thing I'll miss now if I buy it is the 10yr 100,000 mile warranty they were offering free, plus free oil changes for life, cause it ended the 30th. It's was the dealers 45yr anniversary or something like that.

I'll need to make a decision soon though, with the current 0% ending July 5th. I'm trying to decide between the(this) SS/SC and two local srt4's (one regular, one ACR) both for 17,999, only issue is they are both used with 12k & 16k miles.

 

Well in my case the printed invoice the dealer showed me agreed completly with the edmunds prices for all items except one - I pointed that out to him and he took it off. There are a dozen dealers around here and I made them work for my money; I walked many times until I had the deal I wanted. If they made a dime off me I honestly don't know where it was.

 

^^^ and you know that nis a shame a fair price is a fair price...let the poor guys try to make a living and dont beat them up...do you go into krogers and tell them you dont like the cost of their peas and if you dont lower the price i will go right down the street and buy them 5 cebts less...these are the type of people i let walk because i dont want to work 2 weeks just to make a flat $120.00. and i will break the invoice right out of the book and say here is sticker this is what we pay YOU tell me a fair price...makes it a little easier on the so called educated consumer

 

That is THE MOST SHITTY excuse I hear salesmen use. You leave out the fact that "Kroger’s" most likely doesn't have a habit of marking up the price of peas an extra $5~$15 from the actual price and then trying to convince you that it's a fair deal. The reason people try to bargin is b/c they already know the dealer would like to (and probably has) throw in every bs processing fee and markups they can.

 

Like mentioned above, a dealer's invoice also includes frieght. Not to mention a 3%-5% holdback. Those two items alone are what a dealer considers a sacred piece of negotiation that the customer can't bargain for. I am friends with many car dealers and when I went in to order my 06 ss/sc, i was given the price it cost to get that car to them. $22,138. Saw it on paper, and was given the info from a long time good friend of mine. Granted, the dealer will make a few hundred bucks on that car still with the holdback. $22,500 is a decent price for a car with an msrp around $23,500 after dealer costs. I say go for it!