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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Who owned this Yellow cobalt with odometer fraud, or something, on carfax?

This car is being sold in NY.
The carfax says there was odometer fraud or it went over 100,000 and rolled back to 0. Would that happen? or would it go past 100,000. I did the math someone had to drive it about 600 miles a day for 8 months...

ODO READS 100 RIGHT NOW??!

VIN 1G1AP11P967707267

ITS A YELLOW SS SUPERCHARGED 06


anyone have info on this car? would like to talk to original owner or anything thats possible

THANKS FOR THE HELP


THIS IS WHERE ITS BEEN---

01/31/2006 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Mount Sinai, NY Registered as
personal vehicle
02/01/2006 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Mount Sinai, NY Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Passed safety inspection
02/01/2006 27 New York
Inspection Station Emissions inspection performed
Dealer had vehicle inspected to
prepare it for sale
Passed safety inspection

View what was inspected
10/24/2006 100 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Cockeysville, MD NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED

CARFAX AdvisorTM
A NAM title is issued when the owner discloses to a DMV mileage fraud, a broken odometer or that the actual mileage of this vehicle is unknown.

Mileage reported after this reading is potentially unreliable.
11/08/2006 Auto Auction Sold at auction
in Eastern Region
Listed as
a fleet vehicle
11/16/2006 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale





I WANNA BUY THIS CAR BUT I WANNA KNOW WHATS UP WITH THE ODOMETER!!




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Ownership HistoryOwnership History
The number of owners is estimated by CARFAX Owner 1
Year purchased 2006
Type of owner Personal
Estimated length of ownership 9 months
Owned in the following states/provinces New York
Estimated miles driven per year ---
Last reported odometer reading 100



Title Problems Title Problems
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Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt No Problem
Fire/Flood | Hail Damage | Buyback/Lemon No Problem
Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits
This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee
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Problem Found
Alert! Severe problems were reported by a state Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). This vehicle does not qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.



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Frame Damage Check
No frame damage reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported
Airbag Deployment Check
No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported
Odometer Rollback Check
See State DMV-reported Title Problems above.

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Problem Found
Accident Check
No accidents reported to CARFAX.

No Issues Reported
Manufacturer Recall Check
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No Recalls Reported
Basic Warranty Check
No data reported to CARFAX.

No Data Reported

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Body Style: Coupe
Engine Type: 2.0L L4 MPI DOHC
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Body Style: Coupe
Engine Type: 2.0L L4 MPI DOHC
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A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 6 record(s) for this 2006 CHEVROLET COBALT SS SUP CHG (1G1AP11P967707267).


Owner 1
Purchased: 2006
Type: Personal
Where: New York
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 1/31/06 - 11/8/06
(9 months)


Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
01/31/2006 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Mount Sinai, NY Registered as
personal vehicle
02/01/2006 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Mount Sinai, NY Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Passed safety inspection
02/01/2006 27 New York
Inspection Station Emissions inspection performed
Dealer had vehicle inspected to
prepare it for sale
Passed safety inspection

View what was inspected
10/24/2006 100 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Cockeysville, MD NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED

CARFAX AdvisorTM
A NAM title is issued when the owner discloses to a DMV mileage fraud, a broken odometer or that the actual mileage of this vehicle is unknown.

Mileage reported after this reading is potentially unreliable.
11/08/2006 Auto Auction Sold at auction
in Eastern Region
Listed as
a fleet vehicle
11/16/2006 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale
Tell us what you know about this vehicle?
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* Federal Odometer Act
The Federal Odometer Act requires a seller to disclose the vehicle's mileage on the title when ownership is transferred. Congress enacted this Act to prohibit odometer tampering and to protect consumers from mileage fraud. Under this act, sellers must disclose any issues with the vehicle's odometer. These disclosures translate into the Exceed Mechanical Limits and Not Actual Mileage titles.
* First Owner
When the first owner(s) obtains a title from a Department of Motor Vehicles as proof of ownership.
* Inspections
Many states or counties require annual or biennial emissions and/or safety inspections. Odometer readings are collected at the time of the inspection.
* Not Actual Mileage Title
When the seller certifies, under the Federal Odometer Act, that the odometer reading does not reflect the vehicle's actual mileage. This may occur because the odometer was tampered with, broken, or replaced.
* Ownership History
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* Title Issued
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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I doubt it has over 100k... they probably f'd up entering the milage at inspection
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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cant they find the first owner and see what happen with the car?
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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also we have a digital odometer which will go to like 999,999.9 miles
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Yeah I want to know what exactly happened and what the real mileage is, if i could find the originl owner thatd be amazing. I wanna buy this car today so im trying to figure out anything so see whats really going on here.

THANKS FOR THE HELP!
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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have you seen the car yet? if it looks nice runs nice the price is right i would take it. but have someone look at the car first befor buying it.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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I am going to check it out today, how does 13500 sound?!
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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thats sounds good try to talk them down a little. but just check that car out inside and out really good. where in CT are you? and wheres the car?
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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I am in greenwich ct and they are in ny. Just got my license back after 3 months, approved for loan, excitedd to drive again!!!!!
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Going right now to check it out wish me luck!!!!










if ne one finds out something i should know, maybe original owner, if anyone cares enough to help me out call 2035504493 asap before i buy it!
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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somone may have changed the BCM. its where the milage is stored. just a thought
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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I'ts impossible for the car to have 100,000 miles already. Something had to of been fucked up with the odo. Take the VIN to a chevy dealership and hopefully if its been serviced before they will have the last known mileage.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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No bank will finance a car with a odometer problems so i couldnt get the car. Still looking, will take the first one that comes up sub 15k! 2035504493
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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Now maybe its just me, but seeing how our odometers work, wouldn't it be hard to tamper with it?
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 07:19 PM
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well carfax says real mileage unknown
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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The only warranty claim listed on the VIN besides the PDI is a courtesy tow on 8/24/06 with an odo reading of 9,000 miles. Also FYI it started life as a leased vehicle. COULD have been sold at auction but at low miles and being a not-so-common car it probably hit the lot as a GM certified unless there's a BIG reason why it shouldn't be.

Odometer fraud is nearly impossible these days unless you have acess to dealer-only tools and contacts.
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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What is PDI?
The dealer is acting strange.They are a big place over 2000 cars. I am trying to buy the car for 15637 including 6% ct sales tax. They will not accept my capital one blank check loan. They are saying that since there is this tmu true mileage unkown on the carfax that the bank will not pay them. But the bank will, i spoke with the bank several times and the car dealership is being scethcy. Anyone have any idea why? They refuse to sell to me saying the loan does not work and it does. Any ideas
Thanks for the help
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Right now the ODO reads 9XXX when i check the car out
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Fishy......./:
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Old Dec 8, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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PDI is Pre Delivery Inspection, when the dealer recieves the vehicle they inspect it themselves and then take delivery of the vehicle. (technically confusing) If the Tech entered the wrong mileage on accident it could be a flag, but its always caught before sale. (no carfax report to catch it because it will be off by 2 miles max)
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